How to fly a Spit 1a correctly!?

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by Robo.

That was not my intention, I just disagreed with you. I have never met you in combat and wouldn't comment your skill as such. Everybody makes mistakes in combat and everybody deals with them in a different manner, that's OK.

And mistake I make

Originally Posted by Robo.

This is what you wrote: ''One of my fav move if a 109 chase me in my hurri is to climb up if I feel that I hve time to reach the 20K+ feet where any fight will be on even grounds. ''

I didn't say you tried to do that from the deck, I say you won't be able to win a climbing contest with a 109 in any RAF fighter

Yup unless you are at alt

The point here is not to gain from the 109 that seat in your 6 but to hve enough time to drag him were the fight will be on even grounds.

Originally Posted by Robo.

As for what reflected wrote - he probably means this site, esp. pilot recalls in the bottom section

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html

Biased or not, these are 'carefuly' chosen entries from logbooks and interviews, very subjective of course, but still valid and very interesting.

That's all the prob with this kind of website. it's biased and partial. You can't take all the good and leave the bad, scientifically doing that you are toasted !

Giving all the efforts the author as provided it's sad that he/she did fall in that muddy ground (personal comment).

Regarding the E state that has to be put in consideration, you said it all.

The 109E was one of the best climber of WWII. Such it was that the late k4 was said to retrieve the same climb speed. There is no secret to that : fined tuned aero coeffs to let a thicker airfoil being practicable with a surrealistic Power to weight ratio (if you make abstraction of the engine weight, the basic structure of the 109 compete with many late war design - exception made of the Zero Zeke).

But this is OT. That's not what I wanted when I jumped into that discussion. Neither being harsh with you.

~S!