"Battle for Europe" Competition (PS3 SIM Players) "Year: 1946"

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by edal86

Iwill take a look at it, I thought there were more. I may just assign the korsun map to germany or italy then, and one of the UK maps to the ardennes, I will tell you guys when I figure it out. I really dont want CTA matches to happen on 1 airfield maps, what do you guys suggest?

How about use the native 2 airfields for whichever side controls the territory; if no side controls it, the side with air superiority; if no air superiority, flip a coin or use stalingrad for ussr-controlled zones and korsun for neutral. I'm not sure korsun even has 2 airfields.

requiring takeoff after completing a capture isn't enough to prevent 2 planes on the ground. There's also landing to stop a capture in progress.

... sorry but more details to hammer out: when a bomber returns to its side of the map, what exactly is its side? Past its own bunkers?

[edal86]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

How about use the native 2 airfields for whichever side controls the territory; if no side controls it, the side with air superiority; if no air superiority, flip a coin or use stalingrad for ussr-controlled zones and korsun for neutral. I'm not sure korsun even has 2 airfields.

requiring takeoff after completing a capture isn't enough to prevent 2 planes on the ground. There's also landing to stop a capture in progress.

... sorry but more details to hammer out: when a bomber returns to its side of the map, what exactly is its side? Past its own bunkers?

I just checked and there are only 2 maps with 2 airfields (Britain and USSR (stalingrad)). A side will always control a territory, a side will always have air superiority over a territory (Italy is Neutral because It would be unfair to give it to a team (it would be 3 territories to 2)

* How about: if the territory of interest for capture is badly damaged (10 targets were previously destroyed in Strategic Bombing) then, the CTA matches will take place in a single airfield map. If the territory was not successfully bombed, then, CTA matches will take place in 2 airfield maps. Wether the map is from Britain or the USSR will depends on who is defending the territory. It will either be like this example I just mentioned or just play each match according to the territory to capture no matter if there is only 1 airfield or two.

* Bomber return to base: yes, the bomber icon has to be behind friendly lines, that is near or behind the blue markers which represent your teams ground targets. That is why I ask for a screenshot of the landed bomber with the map open (the map is transparent and I will be able to see the plane and its speed and bombs.

* Capturing Airfields: If you are capturing an airfield and the percentage progress stops that means the enemy has landed. I guess you can stay there and wait for your enemy to be destroyed, but I dont want to see a plane landed after the airfield has been captured and when the closest enemy is not even near the airfield or is busy engaging your team mate in a dogfight. Understand? Of course we can go on with what if situations but I think that I am clear in what I mean. My main problem has been solved by not allowing bombers because I remember playing CTA and bombers would just rest on an airfield and shoot down any enemy getting near the airfield.

[edit] dont worry about questions, ask all the details necessary. I at least want you to understand all rules because USSR is now your responsibility. Any questions that may arise on your private website I will be happy to answer. If you understand these rules, then, I will assume USSR team understands them. Also, you can supervise that I am not bending the rules so USSR knows I am not favoring UK team

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by edal86

I just checked and there are only 2 maps with 2 airfields (Britain and USSR (stalingrad)). A side will always control a territory, a side will always have air superiority over a territory (Italy is Neutral because It would be unfair to give it to a team (it would be 3 territories to 2)

* How about: if the territory of interest for capture is badly damaged (10 targets were previously destroyed in Strategic Bombing) then, the CTA matches will take place in a single airfield map. If the territory was not successfully bombed, then, CTA matches will take place in 2 airfield maps. Wether the map is from Britain or the USSR will depends on who is defending the territory. It will either be like this example I just mentioned or just play each match according to the territory to capture no matter if there is only 1 airfield or two.

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* Capturing Airfields: If you are capturing an airfield and the percentage progress stops that means the enemy has landed. I guess you can stay there and wait for your enemy to be destroyed, but I dont want to see a plane landed after the airfield has been captured and when the closest enemy is not even near the airfield or is busy engaging your team mate in a dogfight. Understand? Of course we can go on with what if situations but I think that I am clear in what I mean. My main problem has been solved by not allowing bombers because I remember playing CTA and bombers would just rest on an airfield and shoot down any enemy getting near the airfield.

[edit] dont worry about questions, ask all the details necessary. I at least want you to understand all rules because USSR is now your responsibility. Any questions that may arise on your private website I will be happy to answer. If you understand these rules, then, I will assume USSR team understands them. Also, you can supervise that I am not bending the rules so USSR knows I am not favoring UK team

most of the contingencies will happen eventually. So if I understand it right, parking after capture is forbidden but landing to interrupt a capture is not.

Successful bombing already gives an advantage to the attacker via rules, but a single runway handicaps both sides. With 8 players it's like an air show by the 3 stooges, the marx brothers and laurel and hardy. The runway disappears in a haze of smoke

I hope the penalty for ramming bombers is for deliberate collision as opposed to accidents, if you attack a bomber intelligently with a weave pattern there's bound to be occasional collisions.

[edal86]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

most of the contingencies will happen eventually. So if I understand it right, parking after capture is forbidden but landing to interrupt a capture is not.

Successful bombing already gives an advantage to the attacker via rules, but a single runway handicaps both sides. With 8 players it's like an air show by the 3 stooges, the marx brothers and laurel and hardy. The runway disappears in a haze of smoke

I hope the penalty for ramming bombers is for deliberate collision as opposed to accidents, if you attack a bomber intelligently with a weave pattern there's bound to be occasional collisions.

* What I dont want is for a player to remain landed and impede the enemy from capturing the airfield. Dont worry about this matter anymore, I will bring it up to you guys if I see happening what I dont want to see happening.

* I dont believe in accidents in this tournament, either you ram an enemy bomber or you dont. You guys will just have to be extra careful when attacking bombers. Of course, it may happen without intention but you can always prevent this. Only if the bomber player reports this as intentional then I will punish the rammer as I stated. Remember bombers are worth 5 deaths for a reason (so they want to stay alive). In the case that the bomber player reports this but does not find that you did it intentionally I will still have to demote the rammer at least 1 rank

* CTA matter: I have to find a way for this. yes its true, a successful strategic bomber already helps the attacker in CTA. I will let you know or mention it on the actual Briefing objective

[edal86]

Finally, I was able to create an animated signature with GIMP (it appears to be free a very simple to use) hehe

All members of my flight please use my animated signature this way I can update your rank (I sent you a PM with the image URL)

* I know the orange advertisement may not be very appealing but since you guys are in my flight you will help me advertise this tournament LOL, sorry

[edal86]

Tournament's Inauguration is on Tuesday (check bulletin board)

Better be ready for the fight over the control of Italy guys

If a squadron/Flight has their signature design ready please post it so I can edit it and so that you guys will always have your signature updated!

Winny and Subarugaz, your squadron images look ready, you guys want me to begin monitoring them? If yes, please post and I will send you your signature via Private Message

kozzmo,
is team USSR ready?

[Spitfire23]

Originally Posted by edal86

Tournament's Inauguration is on Tuesday (check bulletin board)

Better be ready for the fight over the control of Italy guys

If a squadron/Flight has their signature design ready please post it so I can edit it and so that you guys will always have your signature updated!

Winny and Subarugaz, your squadron images look ready, you guys want me to begin monitoring them? If yes, please post and I will send you your signature via Private Message

kozzmo,
is team USSR ready?

Oh more than ready to take control of italy

yes mate sig is ready, feel free to edit the signature

[edal86]

Attention UK Team players.

I got a response from an administrator regarding private threads.

* It turns out that we can create User Groups that can only be accessed if you receive an invitation.

I created one already titled -- "Battle for Europe" - RAF Squadron --

* I have started to invite you guys, so please check this out.

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by edal86

kozzmo,
is team USSR ready?

I doubt anyone is really ready, if you were to ask everyone on both teams what the rules are, I doubt even 1/3 of them would be able to tell you.

There's no German translation of the rules, I don't know if varcus2 and olife- have seen them, and Mirgervin apparently doesn't have a pc and can't figure out how to use his ps3's web browser.

But nobody is gonna pay any more attention than they already are unless it starts. So we're as ready as we're gonna be.

The bomber collision penalty will force attackers to park on the 6 like idiots. Charging the 5 deaths to the fighter's side instead of the bomber's, regardless of the collision's cause, would be as effective a deterrent to ramming, without also being a deterrent to attacking properly. Attacking a bomber without getting hit requires making close passes.

this is what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42g_lMOewJ4

in particular the pass leading up to 0:57 (a kill, though it might not show if it plays slow.) Impossible for the gunner to hit, gets the best angle on the engines and wings. There is always risk of collision, but it's not as much risk as being in the gunner's cone.