Should jets explode?

Fearfactor · #1 06-02-2012, 03:02 AM

Anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel that jets, such as the Me-262 should not explode under any circumstances once on fire. Modern jet fuels I know for a fact are similar to kerosene or diesel fuel, but a different level of refinement. Not sure about W.W.II era jet fuel but assuming it is similar, then your 262 should never explode after it catches on fire. It should burn like crazy but not explode. But in IL2, all jets can explode. Unlike petrol/gasoline, fuels of this type are not explosive, just extremely flammable. I was weirded out the first few times I flew the 262 when Forgotten Battles introduced this first jet to the game a long time ago, because it would explode and I always understood ( possibly wrongly ) that jet fuels are not explosive. There is a difference between highly flammable fuels and combustible ones. Right or wrong? I'm starting this debate, please post your opinion if you care to.

Luno13 · #2 06-02-2012, 07:08 AM

I think the engine explosion, at least in the Me-262, accomplishes something else: it models the weakening, and eventual failure of the spar from heat. Whether it comes off from an explosion or slow burn doesn't make a huge difference in the end (final result is a crater).

It would be cool to see this fixed, if true, but I don't have an opinion on this yet.

Fearfactor · #3 06-02-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Luno13

I think the engine explosion, at least in the Me-262, accomplishes something else: it models the weakening, and eventual failure of the spar from heat. Whether it comes off from an explosion or slow burn doesn't make a huge difference in the end (final result is a crater).

It would be cool to see this fixed, if true, but I don't have an opinion on this yet.

But this unpredictable explosion makes it hard to survive in a jet if the engine catches on fire. At least a slower burn would give you a chance to get back over to the friendly lines in some cases. Now you have to bail out.

EJGr.Ost_Caspar · #4 06-02-2012, 11:45 AM

Isn't it always the vapour that is leading to explosion? So half full tanks in planes can very easily explode.

RPS69 · #5 06-02-2012, 04:00 PM

Excess of kerosene, only means that it will burn for a while, until it is all consumed out. But if you shut the valve, there must not be any more kerosene flow. Engine may be caught into flames, but it appears more like a fuel tank going into flames than an engine.

ElAurens · #6 06-02-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fearfactor

At least a slower burn would give you a chance to get back over to the friendly lines in some cases. Now you have to bail out.

In a real plane, in a real war, if it were on fire, you would get out of it as fast as you could. Only gamers with no fear of death ride a fireball to the front lines.

Luno13 · #7 06-02-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens

In a real plane, in a real war, if it were on fire, you would get out of it as fast as you could. Only gamers with no fear of death ride a fireball to the front lines.

+1

Besides riding it out, they also try to continue fighting.

AI are somewhat guilty too though.

I would be booking it for home after the first "ping", assuming no teammates were in direct danger. But in the game, it's easy to ignore threats.

Fearfactor · #8 06-04-2012, 04:45 PM

Seems some are evading the issue and discussing getting out of a plane that is on fire instead. Totally irrelevant. In any case if you've ever played online people are constantly doing unrealistic things that are not what pilots in WWII would have done. So if I want to ride a flaming plane back to the front lines ( especially offline, regardless of realism ) that is my business. So back on topic please. The discussion revolves around whether early jets of the WWII era would later explode if on fire.

Fearfactor · #9 06-04-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Luno13

+1

Besides riding it out, they also try to continue fighting.

AI are somewhat guilty too though.

I would be booking it for home after the first "ping", assuming no teammates were in direct danger. But in the game, it's easy to ignore threats.

-10
Both posts get a -10 because posts are avoiding the topic at hand. Simple as that.

Fearfactor · #10 06-04-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Isn't it always the vapour that is leading to explosion? So half full tanks in planes can very easily explode.

No, because fuel vapour from fuels in the jet fuel/kerosene/diesel family are not explosive even in vapour form. And you are on the Daidalos team? This is truly sad.....