Should jets explode?

[Fearfactor]

Originally Posted by Luno13

I think the engine explosion, at least in the Me-262, accomplishes something else: it models the weakening, and eventual failure of the spar from heat. Whether it comes off from an explosion or slow burn doesn't make a huge difference in the end (final result is a crater).

It would be cool to see this fixed, if true, but I don't have an opinion on this yet.

But this unpredictable explosion makes it hard to survive in a jet if the engine catches on fire. At least a slower burn would give you a chance to get back over to the friendly lines in some cases. Now you have to bail out.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Isn't it always the vapour that is leading to explosion? So half full tanks in planes can very easily explode.

[RPS69]

Excess of kerosene, only means that it will burn for a while, until it is all consumed out. But if you shut the valve, there must not be any more kerosene flow. Engine may be caught into flames, but it appears more like a fuel tank going into flames than an engine.

[Fearfactor]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Isn't it always the vapour that is leading to explosion? So half full tanks in planes can very easily explode.

No, because fuel vapour from fuels in the jet fuel/kerosene/diesel family are not explosive even in vapour form. And you are on the Daidalos team? This is truly sad.....

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Fearfactor

No, because fuel vapour from fuels in the jet fuel/kerosene/diesel family are not explosive even in vapour form. And you are on the Daidalos team? This is truly sad.....

Don't you like his cockpits?

[JtD]

While knowledge about fuel explosions is no mandatory knowledge for membership in TD, I'm glad he's a member.

However, he's right and you are not. Kerosin and diesel fuel vapours are highly explosive. This is how a Diesel engine works in the first place, and if you doubt Kerosin / Jet explosions you might want to google TWA flight 800.

[Aviar]

I decided to research this topic a few days ago but changed my mind about posting. However, I will note some observations.

In researching, I found a number of references to Me-262's exploding during the refueling process. I also came across several pilot accounts of 262's exploding during dogfights.

So, take that as you will. I'm sure more experts on the subject can shed some light on this.

*My own gut feeling tells me this ----> Jet Fuel + War = BOOM!

Aviar

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by JtD

While knowledge about fuel explosions is no mandatory knowledge for membership in TD, I'm glad he's a member.

However, he's right and you are not. Kerosin and diesel fuel vapours are highly explosive. This is how a Diesel engine works in the first place, and if you doubt Kerosin / Jet explosions you might want to google TWA flight 800.

Yes, a spark from a fuel pump (or a valve, cannot remember) exploded the tank and brought the aircraft down.

[RPS69]

Yes, accidents happens, and errors with aviation fuel of any kind, could bring hell anywhere. But the main thing here is the engines getting instantly on fire and exploding, for just a bit of excess fuel. The main effect of this, is bringing the turbine to an overheat.
But if you cut the fuel, you get a more than fair chance of starting again without more consequences than diminsihing the engines life, or just burning more fuel than needed.
Here and now, is a digital thing. Move the thrust too fast, and it goes BOOM! This effect was allways a bit on the exagerated part.
The 262 was not put into flying without testing. It was a whole program with almost 5 years sinjce engines development.
And also you may find reports about accidents with them, but nothing as sistematich as it is in game.

[Treetop64]

Originally Posted by RPS69

Yes, accidents happens, and errors with aviation fuel of any kind, could bring hell anywhere. But the main thing here is the engines getting instantly on fire and exploding, for just a bit of excess fuel. The main effect of this, is bringing the turbine to an overheat.
But if you cut the fuel, you get a more than fair chance of starting again without more consequences than diminsihing the engines life, or just burning more fuel than needed.
Here and now, is a digital thing. Move the thrust too fast, and it goes BOOM! This effect was allways a bit on the exagerated part.
The 262 was not put into flying without testing. It was a whole program with almost 5 years sinjce engines development.
And also you may find reports about accidents with them, but nothing as sistematich as it is in game.

Reading this, one is left little room to think anything other than that you're assuming the source of a fire or explosion is always from the engine.