The Saitek Aviator AV8R-02 for Xbox 360 sucks

[Draupnir2]

Originally Posted by Doktorwzzerd

My Ace Edge is in the mail, $96 from ebay and I can't wait to finally be able to look and use my rudder without screwing up my throttle. There's nothing more annoying than trying to out-maneuver a pursuer while keeping your eye on him and all of sudden you stall because you inadvertently chopped your throttle. Keeping your head outside of the cockpit seems to me to be the number one skill and you just can't do it with the gamepad. FOR REALZ.

You got a very good deal there Doktor ! I was considering the Ace Edge myself, but the ridiculous second hand prices, and even high postage and VAT on top, made it a no-go for me. Never seen it this cheap. You can look forward to a completely new game now

[StarScream]

I tried out the demo on xbox and was blown away!

Then I saw a used Saitek AV8R stick for 20 bucks, bought it, tried using it on the demo and loved it! Then I bought the full game.

This is my first post and IL2 is my first flight sim game so I have nothing to compare the game or the flight stick to, except that the stick is far superior than control pad.

Sure I have to make adjustments while I'm in flight, but overall the Flight Stick accomplishes what I need and that is giving me the feeling of being in control of a ww2 plane.

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by StarScream

I tried out the demo on xbox and was blown away!

Then I saw a used Saitek AV8R stick for 20 bucks, bought it, tried using it on the demo and loved it! Then I bought the full game.

This is my first post and IL2 is my first flight sim game so I have nothing to compare the game or the flight stick to, except that the stick is far superior than control pad.

Sure I have to make adjustments while I'm in flight, but overall the Flight Stick accomplishes what I need and that is giving me the feeling of being in control of a ww2 plane.

Firstyl - welcome to the IL2 forum, its a good bunch in here and if you need any help just ask and you'll get an answer quite soon.

Im glad you love the game and the stick. Its a superb game and does the job its meant to do quite well. You'll notice a few annoying things when you play online but fear not they are being resolved when the patch is released which is any time now.

Also if you know anything about WW2 aircraft and feel that one plane doesnt fly as it should (P51/FW190 etc) dont worry some of these are being sorted to. Also german planes will get a cockpit view

Again - welcome to the forum mate

[Doktorwzzerd]

Originally Posted by Draupnir2

You got a very good deal there Doktor ! I was considering the Ace Edge myself, but the ridiculous second hand prices, and even high postage and VAT on top, made it a no-go for me. Never seen it this cheap. You can look forward to a completely new game now

As for the VAT and other Eurosocialist bloodsucking I can't testify and I feel for you, but if you look carefully on ebay you can find auctions where the Ace Edge goes for $100US pretty routinely, I don't think theres a big scramble for it right now. For example my auction was at $95 when I entered my bid, it went to $96 with my bid, I remained the high bidder for10hrs and won with just that $1, so the other bidders must not have wanted the stick that badly.

Also the current devaluation of the dollar is sure to make it much more affordable for you, don't forget about that, your euros are buying alot more dollars now than a couple of months ago. Maybe that will help offset the tariffs and postage? BTW Was the Ace Edge not sold in Europe?

[Draupnir2]

Originally Posted by Doktorwzzerd

As for the VAT and other Eurosocialist bloodsucking I can't testify and I feel for you, but if you look carefully on ebay you can find auctions where the Ace Edge goes for $100US pretty routinely, I don't think theres a big scramble for it right now. For example my auction was at $95 when I entered my bid, it went to $96 with my bid, I remained the high bidder for10hrs and won with just that $1, so the other bidders must not have wanted the stick that badly.

Also the current devaluation of the dollar is sure to make it much more affordable for you, don't forget about that, your euros are buying alot more dollars now than a couple of months ago. Maybe that will help offset the tariffs and postage? BTW Was the Ace Edge not sold in Europe?

You are right, but after I made this http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=10528, I havent been hunting for the Ace Edge any more Now I just need to get the "pedals" more "streamlined"...