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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-09-2011, 12:41 AM
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Well,I think your post was brilliant, Blackdog_kt .
I agree 100% with your message to the community: "keep your mind open!"
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:41 AM
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It will be interesting to see how having a passenger on your lap is going to be portrayed in the sim.

There are a lot of RL stories about pilots having to double-up in tight situations. Here goes some quotes from a book "The Spitfire, Mustang and Kittyhawk in Australian Service" by Stewart Wilson

""Waddy's (John Waddy 15.5 confirmed kills) achieved some fame over an incident which well illustrates that determination.During a ground strafing attack, he found his Kittyhawks engine badly badly overheating. Giving him no alternative but to make a forced landing behind enemy lines. It apeared a long walk home was in front of him, but the approach of three enemy trucks made him have a go at restarting his engine.

Supprisingly , it did and Waddy was able to takeoff and fly at a very low altitude and airspeed for about half an hour before the Alison once again began dangerously overheating. So once more the Kittyhawk was put down, but this time Waddy deliberately allowed enough time for it to cool down before restarting it again and once more taking off. He nursed the aircraft and its red hot engine back to base, just making it before the Allison finally called it quits and sized."

"The flamboyant Gibbes (Bobby Gibbes CO of 3 Squadron 10.25 Kills) carved his own bit of immortality by indulging in one of the more spectacular examples of what was called "double dinking'. This was when a pilot landed his single seat fighter on the desert in order to pick up one of his downed comp[anions. With the rescued pilot sitting on his rescuer's lap and one of them operating the rudder pedals and the other the throttle and stick, many a pilot was saved from becomming a prisoner of war by this method.
Gibbes' rescue came about during a straffing mission on an enemy airfield when one of his pilots was hit by flack and had to belly land on the edge of the field. With his other pilots flying cover, Gibbes landed his P-40 on the enemy airfield- while under intense fire - picked up his passenger and pee'd pff quick!"

"Another 3 Squadron puulled off a probably enven more daring 'double dink' when he landed under intense artillery fire to rescue a stranded Major"

All would make interesting missions in the correct setting.

Cheers!

Last edited by Skoshi Tiger; 02-09-2011 at 10:33 AM. Reason: Had Mixied up a few different stories.
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:12 AM
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Still disappointed about the dynamic campaign and it seems that by the interview there wont be one.
In the initial release - just like Il-2.

We'll have our DCG and DGEN, our SEOW and something else - it'll just take time.
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:54 AM
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Just thought I'd add, one dictionary definition of 'renegade' is - 'person who deserts a cause.'

Lots of possible storylines in that sentence alone. It doesn't necessarily mean joining the opposition.

In any case, I agree it will be interesting to see what 's been done and what can be done with the new options being made available.
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Old 02-09-2011, 03:21 AM
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Thanks you for that! I used to read Biggles comic books when I was younger and I remember one instance where a hurricane was actually flown by a German pilot , he flew his captured aircraft among the English ones in combat and shot a couple down and then backed off, of course this comic is fictive, but I think it's based on true experiences/actions/reports from pilots. Eventually he became too suspicious and they shot him down though
On August 11, 1943, an Italian captured P-38 flown by Angelo Tondi shot down B-17F 42-30307 “Bonnie Sue” (97th BG, 414th BS).

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Old 02-09-2011, 03:34 AM
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On August 11, 1943, an Italian captured P-38 flown by Angelo Tondi shot down B-17F 42-30307 “Bonnie Sue” (97th BG, 414th BS).

He must have been just as worried about being shot down by his own side as the enemy, considering how distinctive the Lightning's appearance is
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:13 AM
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Ilya wrote in another thread about this issue:


There's bits and pieces. We made a decision about 18 months ago that we wouldn't be able to make it right, and we'd rather build good static campaigns instead. So it's been on a backburner for some time.

I'm the guy who wrote a bunch of giant 100-page design docs for the dynamic campaign, so it was a very hard decision for me personally.

There's probably at least a year of work left on it to make it great. We could have make something like an Il-2 level dynamic campaign in a few months, but I don't want to do that at all. I want it to be ground-breaking and worthy of the rest of the game.


I understand the dissapointment for some offliners, but considering the small development team and estimated time for deveoping this, I think they made the right decision: focus on the actual engine, FM , etc etc.. otherwise this title would be deleyed even more...and as someone said.. mission makers will throw themselves at this in a rush.. there will be plenty of downloadable missions and let's just se what happens with the dynamic issue after the release.


regarding the sequel... I guessed Med but wished Pacific. Makes sense though to make a seq with re-usable planeset..makes ETA shorter
+1

And remember Klunk, if we do get the Med there is a high probability that the B-25 is in there. Think of the SvAF Big Wing reenacted with a new high fidelity B25 over North Africa.

Will probably have to leave work for a month or two!
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:32 AM
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I wonder with the renagade Spits thing, does that mean blue gets these?
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:23 AM
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thanks for this interview
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:30 AM
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what i understood from the interview it could be sort of personal hate or conflict between pilots, or maybe sympathizing with the enemy like you wrote, anyway it will be interesting angle to look at the airwar.
I think you'll rather see something to the effect that you and your wingman are engaged by 109s (from above afcourse) and a 109 gets on your tail and your wingman refuses to shoot him of!
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