Dot Visibility in COD and Other Flight ims.

[ElAurens]

Camoflage was applied for a reason after all.

I do agree that spotting them above you, under certain circumstances, is perhaps too easy though. We do need to remember that trained military pilots at the ages that they were then were in the prime of their youth and physical capabilities, hence the accounts of pilots spotting aircraft at what seem to some of us outlandish distances.

Even with my 57 year old eyes, spotting aircraft above me in the real world while standing on terra firma is not a difficult task, if the weather cooperates. It is actually much harder on a clear, sunny day.

[Wolf_Rider]

yes, dots in COD/il2 are hard to see and they are harder in DCS... guess what?, they're harder again in real life.

crikey, why don't the whiners just push for flashing neon arrows pointing out where they are instead?


so sad to see good hardware piddled on because a whiner hasn't learnt

[patrat1]

the problem isnt that its to hard to spot planes.

as some have pointed out its not easy in real life.

the problem is planes that pass below you are disappearing even as your staring at them. that imo is not realistic.

[flyingblind]

Spotting aircraft above me at any distance is fine. Spotting them directly below me presents little problem for me, especially over water. However, at middle to long range and below my horizon I find they just break up and merge with the shimmering distant landscape. Hopefully this is down to lack of AA especially transparency and will be fixed in future.

[6S.Manu]

Wow! Here we are again... "In real life is harder!".

I can't disagree that "spotting" inflight airplanes is hard but we can't compare the real life's difficulty and the simulator's one.

Here I'm talking about "tracking" the airplanes: I know where they are but I lose them in a blink. It gets me furious to listen one of my teammates who cries that he has one enemy on his six but all I can see is him and nobody else... until the enemy fires...
And what about diving planes who disappear on the forest or in the high quality textures of the ground?

In that case the game is no more relaxing for me, and I changed my resolution to fly with my friends.

And what about motion perception?

EDIT: that patrat1 says...

@Wolf_Rider: calling the other posters "whiners"... good job.

[LeLv8_Otto]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

This is the problem that bores me the most in flight sims.

...

I think a sim should use Icon (very small) and should simulate what the pilot see and what he does not: clouds, sun... the dots/icon should totally disappear in that case.

Build a Toggle Icon key and I'm ok with that.

Above is a good suggestion to make both sides dots look similar!!! (like it is not in prev. IL-2 series)

[jermin]

It doesn't matter whether the dot visibility in game (both IL2 and CoD) is true or not in real life. But for the sake of fair online play, please make every player has the same dot size no matter what screen resolution they use. Come on! Is it really that hard to implement? To be frank, I don't want to play the game online in native full HD resolution with the guys with awful graphics but super big dot.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

Wow! Here we are again... "In real life is harder!".

I can't disagree that "spotting" inflight airplanes is hard but we can't compare the real life's difficulty and the simulator's one.

Here I'm talking about "tracking" the airplanes: I know where they are but I lose them in a blink. It gets me furious to listen one of my teammates who cries that he has one enemy on his six but all I can see is him and nobody else... until the enemy fires...
And what about diving planes who disappear on the forest or in the high quality textures of the ground?

In that case the game is no more relaxing for me, and I changed my resolution to fly with my friends.

And what about motion perception?

to expand on your post....

look up some WWII warship camo and learn that in some cases it made the ship appear to be travel in a different direction to what it really was

[Chefer]

Hi guys,

enjoyning this thread and excluding visibility distance in real flight versus Sims I'm having problems with dots and airplane visibility online.

I flew online for the first time yeaterday on sindicate server and I can easily spot a group formation or a single bogey level at long range and when as I'm approaching, agains sky, one by one, the dots disappear. This happen only online and with any FOV degree.

I'll try to play at monitor native full res to see.
Tried to change visibility distance to =2 in conf.ini and game video setup without success too...

If someone can help I thank you in advance.

<S>!

[skouras]

i ve got 1920-1080 as native
and never had a problem to see the dots
except if they flying really low and i'm flying at 4000 meters