More on epilepsy in Cliffs of Dover

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by deadmeat313

Oh stop whining you bunch of pathetic crybabies!

I know for a fact that as soon as this game hits the shelves I'm going to buy it and have a whale of a time. Regardless of the epilepsy filter.

Do you think Oleg & crew are reading this forum and saying "Noooo, he's cancelled his pre-order! Noooooo! We have failed and must make amends somehow!"?


T.

I'm sure they're not worried one bit. But I wont be worried one bit about when it will be fixed either.

[mazex]

Well, the real lesson from this is for Ilya. Dropping comments like the first ones on the night of the pre-release was something you:

A/ Gained a lot of respect for - after all it was not your fault but Ubisofts!

B/ This whole story started another storm in the water glass and you MAYBE lost a bunch of "customers" that have been following the game for six years but now cancelled their orders just hearing this bable-fished rumor!

C/ Lost a big percentage of the REAL customers that will finance your further development of the series as the rumor of the anti epilepsy scheme will spread all over the world like the fire here in the forums.

My vote is at B if this is handled correctly.

Just make it work and delay the release in the rest of the world until you have acceptable frame rate with medium settings on a decent midrange computer bought last year. Not having that is something the reviewers will never accept, even though I will accept if until version 1.08 like I did with RoF.

If an 8Gb Core i7 with a GTX460/HD 5870 does not run the game decently you will crash in flames when the big reviewers put their teeth in this game... They don't care who's fault it is, and neither do the potential REAL customers. If making the anti epilepsy code optional is necessary then make 1C and Ubisoft understand that - or work around it.

Gimme the russian version with english language for christ's sake !

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by mazex

Just make it work and delay the release in the rest of the world until you have acceptable frame rate with medium settings on a decent midrange computer bought last year. Not having that is something the reviewers will never accept, even though I will accept if until version 1.08 like I did with RoF.

If an 8Gb Core i7 with a GTX460/HD 5870 does not run the game decently you will crash in flames when the big reviewers put their teeth in this game... They don't care who's fault it is, and neither do the potential REAL customers. If making the anti epilepsy code optional is necessary then make 1C and Ubisoft understand that - or work around it.

A delay is the most reasonable thing to do now. There are already cancellations all over the place, just browse through various flight sim related forums. It will hurt the sales, no question about that.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Hecke

Gimme the future fixed russian version without any stupid filters and english language for christ's sake !

fixed.

[Warhound]

Originally Posted by adonys

Regarding the necessity to avoid a lawsuit, it can be easily done how it was done hundered times before: IF the epilepsy warning is disabled from ini file, at the launch of the game, put up a mandatory pop up stating epilepsy care-bear code was deactivated, and any user entering the game does it on its own risk (the standard MMO EULA) and by pressing the ACCEPT button (which will be the only way to start the game). This mean no ordinary user can acceidentally start the game without the epilepsy filter code, as it needs to be manually added to the ini file, and even if will do it, being forced to press the Accept button in order to start the game means he was warned and knows about it, and chose to do it at his own risk. From law's point of view, this method is bullet proof (again, see all the MMO's legal part solutions).

It's not that simple I fear, someone unlucky or evil could claim they disabled it but their kid reached the game while they went to the toilet and got a massive seizure ,causing injuries ,braindefects from lack of air or even death.
I can imagine a lawsuit could actually win if the game really does cause seizures all the time. If it happens 100x more often than on other games or movies a judge could rule the developer and publisher had knowledge of it and had an obligation to fix it beforehand. Especially in the USA i can see this happening ..and the EU isn't far behind in "customer protection" these days.


Sad times, but i'm convinced Maddox Studio's will work and work at this issue untill that woodcutters axe is just a stubby rubber toy.
I'm glad to keep my preorder ..and hopefully enjoy the game on release. Even if it's unplayable for a year I'll be happy to have supported Maddox in their time of need and hope they hang in there to eventually give us many many more years of releases.
Think we all (developers and fans equally) would hate it if this issue would mean the end of a beautiful, longlasting lovestory.


little snippet from the article linked earlier :
These voluntary warnings are not only ineffective in the case of consumers who don’t realise they are photosensitive. They may actually be putting off many people with epilepsy who are not even at risk.
This warning effectively discourages anyone with epilepsy from playing without the involvement of a GP or neurologist. This is despite the fact that only three to five per cent of people with epilepsy are photosensitive. The other 95 to 97 per cent of people with epilepsy are at no risk whatsoever – but may still be missing out.

[Devastat]

Now I start to wonder how can I order the russian version??

This was translated on the UBI forums:

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The future of the project The Battle of Britain
Dear friends,

Thank you for your support. Please accept my personal apologies for the problems when you start the game. We worked in full all hands on deck for a long time, last month was even more hectic, and we had a little to the final cleaning of the product.

This is what the team will work in the coming days:

1. Anti-epilepsy will once and forever banished from the Russian version of the game . This adds up to 10 fps on older machines. You now can manually disable the filter - the instructions were given repeatedly.


posted by luthier here,

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1573025

[Mysticpuma]

So just a question.

How many people who flew the Beta at the game show we saw so many videos from were actually carted off to Hospital with Epileptic issues?

Seriously worried here re. the state of game release. Makes you wonder if the Epilepsy 'wrapper' was added to give a reason for poor performance?

Gutted but waiting to see what happens with the extra month before US release?

Here's hoping!

Cheers MP

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Kianoni

Ban shoes because you can walk over cliffs of Dover with them, fall on rocks and die.

Ok, this one really made me laugh

[ATAG_Doc]

I do not blame any of the devs that built this product I am not angry at all. Just very disappointed. I will buy it but only when it's ready for prime time. No pun intended but I do want a heart stopping experience.