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Old 08-04-2009, 06:18 PM
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Yes Anton, once again, your spot on! That book is mearly speculation
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:24 PM
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Yes Anton, once again, your spot on! That book is mearly speculation
there are no documents of allied war crimes.

we won the war.

any documents that did exist were most likely destroyed by the occupiers

Do you think that japan would have tried its own people if they had won the war?

no

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Old 08-04-2009, 06:27 PM
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there are no documents of allied war crimes.

we won the war.

Do you think that japan would have tried its own people if they had won the war?

no
There are also no German documents of death/concentration camps either. Some Germans to this day refuse to believe the Holocaust was real.
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:28 PM
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There are also no German documents of death/concentration camps either. Some Germans to this day refuse to believe the Holocaust was real.
actually there are thousands
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:33 PM
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There are also no German documents of death/concentration camps either. Some Germans to this day refuse to believe the Holocaust was real.
There are A LOT of documents.
Photos.
Movies.
Official orders.
You can visit Buhenvald yourself.
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:33 PM
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There are also no German documents of death/concentration camps either. Some Germans to this day refuse to believe the Holocaust was real.
Well, maybe not German ones. But someone would have needed a 100 years photoshopping all the pictures from Auschwitz, Mauthausen and all the other places. Furthermore it would discredit all the reports from inmates of those concentration camps who made it out alive - in most cases as the only remaining out of their families.

And the people who deny their existence shall tell me where all the jews and other undesired ethnic groups went that disappeared. Are they sitting on Mars or in Atlantis now..?

People can deny the moon landing if they feel like it, but I have serious doubts about their mental state when they start telling me that there is no evidence that concentration camps were real.

However, I also recognize that this is not your personal opinion, so this above outrage is not directed at you. The ones at whom it is directed will know.
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:38 PM
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People can deny the moon landing if they feel like it, but I have serious doubts about their mental state when they start telling me that there is no evidence that concentration camps were real.

And it is understandable.
It is hard to believe, that someone could actually done this.

There was reason, why Nazis told everyone that jews, blacks, gipsys, etc - were of the lesser race. They had to convinve them, that they are not humans - otherwise it would be hard for soldiers to follow these orders.
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:39 PM
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I may only be 15 but ive been to Auschwitz. I strongly recommend going! Its true the stories of no animals living there! there wasnt even a peep from a bird!
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:40 PM
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I misworded that. woops!

I ment like actual German records of killing people(or something like that) which were destroyed before Germans fled the camps when Allied troops got close and this keeps some Germans from believing it happened.

I know there are documents(woopsie me), movies, even the death camps that are still there!

I can recall some of my history professors telling me this, but I can't remember specifically what it was.

My bad

Maybe it was the fact it was so unbelievable that someone would do something so horrible and sick.

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Old 08-04-2009, 06:31 PM
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there are no documents of allied war crimes.

we won the war.
They are.
There were even trials.
You simply do not know what are you talking about.
And comparing Nazis crimes to millions of jews, Russians, gipsys with a personal crimes of soldiers - is ridiculous. And annoying.
And, if you don't know, it is even illegal in a lot of countries - for a reason.

And I think, that if Axis would won the war - there wouldn't be 'trials'. A lot of people would be killed just on orders.

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Do you think that japan would have tried its own people if they had won the war?
Once again - you don't know.
Japanese hadn't tried their war criminals AT ALL.
They lost the war, but scientists who personally and voluntery run experiments on a living people, and kill them are still getting pension.
As well as some of militaries who gave orders of killing Chinise citizens (not militaries), after they've finished their work, just to save some food.

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