Campaigns as Axis?

[versapak]

Originally Posted by xNikex

Not everyone was a 'evil'. Many of them were just doing their job like we do.

But here's something to make you think. Courtousy of trk29:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=8027

Yeah they were doing their jobs, and of course they weren't all evil. The cause they were fighting for certainly was evil though, and it (the cause) deserves no glorification in a game.

[juz1]

Having been involved in the last Nazi-Flame war on this forum (apologies) can I just say HOLD your horses...

Playing as the axis would present very different tatical nuances aswell as very different planes. This is a game and , believe it or not, there were alot of decent pilots out there....amongst all the horrors of war there was honour in some men, and examples of which have already been published on this forum..Honorable men both allied and axis... Lets honour these knights of the sky, seeing as we are lucky enough to play a Game that gives the briefest of glimpses as to the magnitude of what they went through...

just sayin

peace (but not before I've shoot your props off) )

[versapak]

Originally Posted by David603

So, by your standards, there is no campaign mode in Il2 Birds of Prey. Just a series of generic missions strung together with no background story.

How do you figure that?

Even in the demo there was story.

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by versapak

Yeah they were doing their jobs, and of course they weren't all evil. The cause they were fighting for certainly was evil though, and it (the cause) deserves no glorification in a game.

Not glorified, but relived from their point of view.

There were plenty of Luftwaffe pilots who didn't want to fight and never thought they'd make it through the war.

[gozorak]

so in instant action mode...will we be able to pilot an ME 163B or an ME 262 to take down allied bomber formations? that would be so cool to do

[David603]

Originally Posted by gozorak

so in instant action mode...will we be able to pilot an ME 163B or an ME 262 to take down allied bomber formations? that would be so cool to do

Certainly hope so. Both those planes are in trailers, and since they are fighters they should definitely be controllable.

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by David603

Certainly hope so. Both those planes are in trailers, and since they are fighters they should definitely be controllable.

I'm sure they will to, but the Me-163 has only 7 to 8 minutes of fuel incase none of you guys knew that. So you would definately NEED to watch your speed and fuel.

[versapak]

Originally Posted by xNikex

Not glorified, but relived from their point of view.

There were plenty of Luftwaffe pilots who didn't want to fight and never thought they'd make it through the war.

So you want a Nazi campaign where you play as people complaining about doing their evil job?






There is no need to tell the story of Nazis from their point of view, unless their point of view is anti-nazi, which is then NOT playing a Nazi campaign.



I am all for being able to set up those single missions flying their technology, but there is absolutely no need for any sort of campaign for it.

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by versapak

So you want a Nazi campaign where you play as people complaining about doing their evil job?






There is no need to tell the story of Nazis from their point of view, unless their point of view is anti-nazi, which is then NOT playing a Nazi campaign.



I am all for being able to set up those single missions flying their technology, but there is absolutely no need for any sort of campaign for it.

I can make everyone's posts look negative if I try too.

[David603]

There was an interesting test carried out by an American scientist named Stanley Milgram in the late 1960s. He got a group of ordinary Americans, and devised an experiment where the subject thought he/she was administering a series of electrical shocks to another person whenever they made an incorrect answer. 65% of the test subjects repeatedly administered a voltage that resulted in the "victim" screaming in agony and thrashing around audibly.

The percentage was even higher if the subject could observe other people apparently participating in the experiment and administering the same high voltages to other "victims".

Given the same situation as your average concentration camp guard in Germany, let alone a more honourable service such as the Luftwaffe, most people would have done the same.