anton the gamepad guys need help

[guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

Yeah.
I appreciate that.

ya , i understand the situation , it doesnt personally effect me cuz i have a joystick though. But i would be pretty upset if i was planning on playing it with a gamepad. For me when i plugged up the gamepad it was like my brain didnt recognize the commands , like throwing a ball with your other hand.

Its not something i could really get used to i suppose

but if there really is nothing that can be done for the game at launch i can help out the community with getting their pad on

[Moog]

I've been playing Battlefield 1943 for a couple of weeks, flying the airplanes mostly. I was using the default configuration with the right stick for ailerons. I have just tried IL-2 demo and the transition was SEAMLESS. I just don't see how a person with two good hands can't reprogram his head for having the pitch controls on the left stick.

Please, don't make a huge problem out of it.

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by guiltyspark

Its not something i could really get used to i suppose

Not as hard as it seem.
For arcade players this layout is more familiar. More close to shooters.
For real hardcore - they have flightsticks.

Having in option would be sweet, but nobody will make patch _only_ for that, at least now, before D1 sells.
If it will add something else to the game, though, it can be.

[David603]

So this will be on the list for the first patch then. I suppose thats good news, but going from pitch/roll on the right stick to pitch/roll on the left didn't really bother me.

[martyfly147]

well as ive said the main reason it bothers me is i fly rc planes and feel it will be a bad move on my part to play the game a lot with the current setup ,flying rc is a lot to do with muscle memory and oritation ,im sure there will a lot of people who fly rc who will play this game who will feel the same way ,and i know some peolpe wont be bothered.

i think i will buy a flight stick anyway now, is there going to be a new one out for this game or should i buy a Saitek Avaitor

[guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by martyfly147

well as ive said the main reason it bothers me is i fly rc planes and feel it will be a bad move on my part to play the game a lot with the current setup ,flying rc is a lot to do with muscle memory and oritation ,im sure there will a lot of people who fly rc who will play this game who will feel the same way ,and i know some peolpe wont be bothered.

i think i will buy a flight stick anyway now, is there going to be a new one out for this game or should i buy a Saitek Avaitor

not 100 percent sure

I have a feeling there could be a bundle , but i could be very wrong

[Cobaalt]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

Not as hard as it seem.
For arcade players this layout is more familiar. More close to shooters.
For real hardcore - they have flightsticks.

Having in option would be sweet, but nobody will make patch _only_ for that, at least now, before D1 sells.
If it will add something else to the game, though, it can be.

Actually, this is the opposite.
Shooters move with the left stick (froward and strafe, the flight analogy would be throttle and rudder) and look around with the right one (pitch and roll analogy). So for players who play shooters (a big part of 360 players) it's not enjoyable at all!
I love fsims, I used to play IL2 all the time with my sidewinder precision 2 pro, but i don't have a descent stick for the 360. The saitek seems really bad. The Edge ace is discontinued and very expensive.
I also play shooters a lot.
It was a pain in the ass to handle the plane the first time I played the demo.
The second time also.
The third also.
In fact, it seems that each time I launch the game, I have to relearn how to handle the plane with this control layout. This is so sad because the rest of the game is perfect, the best sim on console so far imo.
Now, as a big fan, I will try to accomodate to this. But my friends who aren't big sim fans told me they wont buy it because it's to hard with that "southpaw" control, they keept crashing because the went to 0% throttle instead of pulling up. This sucks for me (because we won't be able to play multiplayer together ) and for 1C, because a large part of the mainstream audiance will lose interest in the game before they could accomodate this.

And even I you patch it like 2 month after release, the launch will suffer this and a huge part of the pie will be lost.

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by Cobaalt

Actually, this is the opposite.
Shooters move with the left stick (froward and strafe, the flight analogy would be throttle and rudder) and look around with the right one (pitch and roll analogy). So for players who play shooters (a big part of 360 players) it's not enjoyable at all!

Actually, I've been playing shooters for 5+ years and only started playing IL-2 1946 in November 2008. When I first played the demo on the Xbox 360, I had no problem at all with the layout.

Although I agree that there needs to be an option to switch layouts, I really don't see how it is so hard to adjust, or why some people have to adjust at all. RC plane users I can understand why... But why is everyone else having such a hard time? Do RC plane users make up more than half of flight sim fans?

[H Lecter]

Originally Posted by PantherAttack2

Do RC plane users make up more than half of flight sim fans?

Well, I think a lot of flight sim lovers took their hobby to the real world at a certain point. The ones who can afford fly real planes and the ones who can't, fly RC planes - especially since they became reasonably cheap over the last few years.

The controller layout is a bit tough to master. I only played on realistic mode so far and it was quite a challenge. Looking around in the cockpit takes a lot of concentration and makes using the throttle/rudder at the same time impossible.

Anyway I ordered my Aviator joystick and recommend doing the same to everybody who does not like the joypad controls. I mean, it's a flight sim - who would want to play that on a joypad?

[Zensuji]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

More close to shooters.

Seems the opposite to me....Its no big deal from my point of view even if I'm using a pad but a full configuration would have been the way to go to cater for everyone.