SOW: two versions.

SlipBall · #1 01-04-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 99th_Flyby

slipball,
not to call you out or anything, but that's quite a statement to make about modders. I've seen youtube videos of some of the mods, and am impressed by some of the efforts. It does not strike me, nor does it seem to necessarily follow that (all of) the modders are the worst types that you portray them to be. I don't want to think that that such a poisonous viewpoint could be true. I think you are voicing your opinion, but is it really so universally applicable to all modders?
I guess I'm just asking for a bit of civility, and pointing out that such broad sweeping statements are unfair to make, imo. No offense.
Flyby out

I never said "modders", I'm talking about the original people that hacked IL2...those same types will start to attempt to open SOW upon release, I do hope that they fail

Flyby · #2 01-04-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall

I never said "modders", I'm talking about the original people that hacked IL2...those same types will start to attempt to open SOW upon release, I do hope that they fail

I stand corrected. You are not implicating modders. I've made an ass of myself by assuming... Can you mod without a hack job? I guess I thought the were interchangeable but I'm not sure now.
Flyby out

ElAurens · #3 01-05-2009, 01:00 AM

I thought that Oleg has already said that there would be, or could be, an online component with officially approved aircraft/maps/3rd party stuff, and a second component that would allow open modifications, and that the two types would not cross over.

311thCopperhead · #4 01-05-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens

I thought that Oleg has already said that there would be, or could be, an online component with officially approved aircraft/maps/3rd party stuff, and a second component that would allow open modifications, and that the two types would not cross over.

Beats me. all i heard about was off line 3rd party mods using officaly supplied tools from Oleg/1C. So so little comming out in detail about it, and a few screenshots post from Big O...hard to say. seems to be a wait and see.

Blackdog_kt · #5 01-05-2009, 07:51 AM

Why not have the best of both worlds? If the game is modular by design (think FSX but with more control by the developers on what gets included, because we need a common basis for online play) then enthusiasts will be able to create new planes and submit them to the dev team ready for FM/DM testing and tweaking, they will save them time and give us more aircraft. And nobody will have to hack anything if the tools are there for the job and the game engine supports an open architecture.

I really don't see any harm in that. In fact, it might mean a couple of years ahead of schedule arrival of your favotire theatres for all of you pacific and late war fans.

The challenge is to make an engine that can accurately compute flight models based on the aircraft's shape and design. Of course that's too much for our PCs to handle with all the bells and whistles of a modern sim and that's why most flight models use ready made tables and approximation. However, maybe a developing tool could do that...you design a plane load it into Oleg's wind tunnel software and it calculates the FM for you ready to be imported in the sim as a new flyable. For one, i would love to see clickable pits at some point and WWII era nav aids and blind bombing devices.

mondo · #6 01-08-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens

I thought that Oleg has already said that there would be, or could be, an online component with officially approved aircraft/maps/3rd party stuff, and a second component that would allow open modifications, and that the two types would not cross over.

If I remember correctly that is the case. You'll be able to fly either a locked 1C produced/approved version or an unlocked version that allows mods. Can't say fairer than that to Oleg.

ElAurens · #7 01-08-2009, 04:28 PM

Indeed, seems like the best possible compromise.

Flyby · #8 01-08-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mondo

If I remember correctly that is the case. You'll be able to fly either a locked 1C produced/approved version or an unlocked version that allows mods. Can't say fairer than that to Oleg.

+2
rgrt.
Flyby out

LEXX · #9 01-08-2009, 08:09 PM

+3

That would be AwSim!

SlipBall · #10 01-09-2009, 09:04 PM

In a perfect world this would work, but if the locked version is used in competition, somebody will hack it. It's naive to think otherwise, it happens to all games