Black Six & Luthier

[simast]

A Release Candidate means the product is 99.5% complete and bug free. It's released to have some final last-minute public testing so just in case some very very rare bugs pop out. I fail to see how this applies to CloD and the current patch? Unless of course in Russia RC means something else?

[Anders_And]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

You're not dealing with a car, you're dealing with a software-product. The differences are as legion as that analogy of yours is severely overused and if you cannot see that, there's damn little I can do to convince you.



It's a bug, and you WILL find that in an Release-candidate. The Hurri No-start bug would, at least to me, be grounds to pull the patch for a rework before releasing another RC. Then again, that's how I work and think, although others might think otherwise.



Too hideous to release this as a final patch? Agree completely.

Fjordmonkey as I see it, a RC is basically a patch ready for official realease. They just want to hear the communities final words before making it public. A RC is as far as they understand a finished product and therefor a candidate for release. Well They wouldnt think its a candiate for release if they would have had their own testing going. This is pretty obvious I would say.
I also agree that they should release the beta to a chosen few to let them test the
patch for a week before releasing it to the public. BUT problem is that since they are barely working on CLoD they will take forever to fix the bugs. Its pretty obvious that CLOd patches are made the last hour on a friday afternoon with a few quick changes of coding anf then just released as s patch.. Then its up to us to tell them. But since they dont listen or even read here its a bit of a one way discussion..
Sorry for spelling mistakes. This is written with my phone and its small keyboard!

[Anders_And]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Fellas am I missing something here?RC released has bugs, bugs get reported and they are worked on and fixed before the final Steam release..

I don't see what people are hyping on about? If they checked the patch for every bug known and listed then what would the point of a RC be? It would be official rules right?

Granted if you fly the hurri your be a bit pissed but its a bug, this isn't the final released patch...

Do some of you actually think they do this on purpose? Release and re release bugs into the game to pi#s everyone off..?

Not being able to start the engine of half the planes in the game is not a bug! Its a gane stopper.
Its like repairing a customers car that did not run well and telling the customer that you now have think you have fixed the problem and you have taken the car for a testrun and it now should run well. And when you as a customer get the car
it doesnt start at all. And then you realise that there isnt even an engine inside. That will of course make you question how they could have taken the car for a test ride when there was never an engine inside.. Then you try to get hold of the guy at the garage and he is simply is impossible to get hold of and doesnt reply when you call him.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by Anders_And

a RC is basically a patch ready for official realease. They just want to hear the communities final words before making it public. A RC is as far as they understand a finished product and therefor a candidate for release.

Wrong

[icarus]

The wiki definition of release candidate:

"Release candidate

A release candidate (RC) is a beta version with potential to be a final product, which is ready to release unless significant bugs emerge. In this stage of product stabilization, all product features have been designed, coded and tested through one or more beta cycles with no known showstopper-class bug."

Not sure they are there yet, by this definition anyway.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by icarus

The wiki definition of release candidate:

"Release candidate

A release candidate (RC) is a beta version with potential to be a final product, which is ready to release unless significant bugs emerge. In this stage of product stabilization, all product features have been designed, coded and tested through one or more beta cycles with no known showstopper-class bug."

Not sure they are there yet, by this definition anyway.

Nice..."which is ready to release unless significant bugs emerge".I suspect a RC2 n 3 yet...at least another

[lonewulf]

I have to agree, the patch appears sloppy and far from finished. First thing I noticed was the ships that are clearly visible through cloud. In fact, they are easier to see with cloud cover than without! OMG, how is this possible. How could the development team not to have noticed such a glaring error. It's almost beyond belief. If they can't get something as basic as that right after months of burning the midnight oil, what confidence can we have that they've got anything right. This is just so disappointing.

I always assumed that I'd be getting the sequel but seriously, who in their right mind would stump up hard earned cash for something that in all likelihood will be yet another frustrating cock-up. Actually, I wouldn't really mind if it was a cock-up if I could actually have some faith that these people would put the necessary effort in to fix the thing. But what evidence do we have of any real commitment to fix things. The latest patch, like the patch before it is half-arsed at best. They have a community that would bend over backwards to help them polish this product and yet here we are, 30 seconds to midnight and all we have is yet another example of apparent contempt.

[grawl]

I don't think the clouds/weather modelisation is complete/finished.

[ATAG_Doc]

TreeUK

Real men don't test their code. The do it in production.

[Icebear]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

TreeUK

Real men don't test their code. The do it in production.