British FM killing the fun of the game for allied pilots.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Robo,

I think what Doggles was talking about was that most reds blame the aircraft fro not being up to scratch and consider flying a 109 "easy".

I have been on the recieving end of comments like "you only shot me down because the flight models porked!". - when the guy didnt even see me comming

Was that you, Farbs? LOL

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Robo.

It is also quite obvious that Blue has got the better aircrafts at the moment and unless you're pushing your luck you won't get touched by the RAF if you do things right...

Okay, but if nobody flew the 109 because it's "untouchable" then who would the Allied guys fly against? AI?

Like it or not, Allied pilots need people to fly the 109 otherwise the online scene would collapse. Someone has to be the bad guy, but constantly being taunted gets old pretty fast. They just complain, complain, complain. Well, what are we supposed to do about it? Fly to Moscow and fix the flight models? Axis pilots are just as powerless as Allied pilots when it comes to getting the game fixed, but we're somehow on the receiving end of a lot of hate.

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Robo,

I think what Doggles was talking about was that most reds blame the aircraft fro not being up to scratch and consider flying a 109 "easy".

I have been on the recieving end of comments like "you only shot me down because the flight models porked!". - when the guy didnt even see me comming

Yep, this is what I meant.

I've lost count of the number of times I spot a spitfire below me flying in a nice straight line and dive on him. I throttle down all the way to idle, because lots of cheaters fly around with their canopies open/jettisoned so that they can hear aircraft 500m behind them I wait until I get to convergence and then open fire with all guns. He bails out and instead of "S~ Nice bounce" it's always something like "109 is a joke" or "fight like a man".

Sour grapes.

[JtD]

And how often have you lately succeeded in bouncing a 109 while in a Spitfire, sending it down in flames? And what words did you get when you did that?

Personally, I find weak opponents more annoying than strong ones, so if the poll question was "is the poor performance of RAF fighters killing the fun for Axis fighter pilots", I'd probably vote yes. But then, all this is secondary to my preference of historically correct performance, leaving the whole fun and balance issue to the mission maker.

[chantaje]

please fix the G 50!!!! 484 km/h at 5,000 m historical max speed. in game i cant go faster than 410 leveled

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by JtD

And how often have you lately succeeded in bouncing a 109 while in a Spitfire, sending it down in flames? And what words did you get when you did that?

Another good example of the attitude I was talking about. Nothing else matters because the Spitfire is undermodeled. Bad attitudes are acceptable because the Spitfire is undermodeled. This community is toxic. Thanks for perpetuating it, JtD.

Edit in case people still aren't clear: When JTD tries to turn around my comment by saying "how many times have you bounced a 109 flying a spit?" what he is doing is excusing peoples' bad attitudes and enabling their misbehaviour.

It's okay to be frustrated at the state of the FMs. It's not okay to take that frustration out of people who have no control over how the flight models are written.

[Gourmand]

i think is stupidity who killing the fun, just fly you'r favorite plane and not the best ingame...

i thook we are a mature community...

[SlipBall]

Those 8 guns are really really devastating in the right hands, tweaked belt loads, convergence adjustments and piloting skills...I wouldn't want one on my tail.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Edit in case people still aren't clear: When JTD tries to turn around my comment by saying "how many times have you bounced a 109 flying a spit?" what he is doing is excusing peoples' bad attitudes and enabling their misbehaviour.

I'm not excusing anything. But since you don't seem to be getting the message, here it is in plain text: Bad attitudes are found on both sides. You'd be more aware of that, if you didn't limit yourself to flying for just one.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by JtD

I'm not excusing anything.

Yeah, right.

But since you don't seem to be getting the message, here it is in plain text: Bad attitudes are found on both sides.

You don't say?

But we're not talking about bad attitudes on all sides. We're talking about misdirected animosity directed towards 109 pilots, as if we're to blame for the crappy RAF FMs.

You'd be more aware of that, if you didn't limit yourself to flying for just one.

Tell me again how you log all my sorties.

[kristorf]

Why do I get the feeling this simple thread is going to go the way of all the others?

Pretty pathetic really isn't it??