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Nitrous 08-18-2012 07:18 AM

British FM killing the fun of the game for allied pilots.
 
Thanks 1C for the improved stability from latest beta patch.
Please work hard on the British FM as its killing the enjoyment of the game for many allied pilots.

FM issues

Engine overheating
Loss of energy/momentum
Bad climb rates
Incorrect top speeds
Incorrect acceleration.

CaptainDoggles 08-18-2012 07:26 AM

Axis FM's need work too. Best level speed in the E3 I can get at altitude is ~490 km/h @ 4000m.

According to the Swiss and French tests it should make about 540 km/h at that altitude.

Nitrous 08-18-2012 07:39 AM

I agree, there are many things wrong with the 109. But online play will be boring for you 109 flyers if there aren't any spits or hurris to shoot down.
I fly all the planes, and in my opinion the British fighters really need a lot of work.

Ze-Jamz 08-18-2012 07:44 AM

All this poll will do is get answers from red n blue pilots voting their side..I don't think its 'killing' the game..

I've seen the reds be a lot worse than what they are now and I've also seen the spit2 completely taken the pi## with its FM..

Both the reds and the 109 need tweaking and if you read the latest update they are indeed working on them afaik

Nitrous 08-18-2012 07:49 AM

Latest update?

Link please.

I'm just worried about this statement;

" Please note that the general performance of the British aircraft is much closer to desired envelope"

addman 08-18-2012 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles (Post 455108)
Axis FM's need work too. Best level speed in the E3 I can get at altitude is ~490 km/h @ 4000m.

According to the Swiss and French tests it should make about 540 km/h at that altitude.

Are you saying 490 km/h indicated or true airspeed? Because if you can get up to 490 km/h @ 4000m indicated then the FM is almost on the mark.

V.4_Pogi 08-18-2012 09:06 AM

Unfortunately, a lot of red pilot air combat knowledge depleted therein(honorable exceptions),that pulls level,with extended flaps. I think first,should be practiced in the other air combat tactics,because that kills the game a lot better.

~S~

Robo. 08-18-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles (Post 455108)
Axis FM's need work too. Best level speed in the E3 I can get at altitude is ~490 km/h @ 4000m.

According to the Swiss and French tests it should make about 540 km/h at that altitude.

I believe the OP was more concerned about the relative LW to RAF performance rather than absolute performance (which is obviously also wrong, I agree).

From playability and 'fun' point of view, which I believe is what OP had in mind in the first place, there are serious issues for this performance gap that exists in game did not exist in so called real life. Hence the frustration of many red pilots. I fly both sides and I admit that unless I do silly stuff in my 109, the RAF can't touch me.

zapatista 08-18-2012 09:20 AM

Nitrous,

blue flyers responding to the poll will significantly distort the outcome of anything you are trying to achieve here :)

Robo. 08-18-2012 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V.4_Pogi (Post 455124)
Unfortunately, a lot of red pilot air combat knowledge depleted therein(honorable exceptions),that pulls level,with extended flaps. I think first,should be practiced in the other air combat tactics,because that kills the game a lot better.

~S~

Hey Pogi! ;) This is not so much about tactics but about relative performance. Maybe you can take the Spitfire and show me how you defend against well flown 109 one day ;) We've met on Repka 'mince meat' few times, you know what I mean mate... S!

*edit - I am very happy that in the 1.08 beta, they changed the neg-G behaviour. That on itself increased the chances to survive quite a bit. What it was before was quite terrible :o


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