British FM killing the fun of the game for allied pilots.

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Originally Posted by adonys

it's funny how you reds are continuously whining about red FMs..

should we start to cry about how we are outclimbed, no matter our energy state, by the red aircrafts? that we can also be outdived, outrolled and outspeeded? that negative Gs are not affecting you as much as it should? that our aircraft seem to be made from paper? that every historical way to escape red on your six is not working?

Hi Adonys, just as you say, you can make complaints about the Bf 109 flight models, there is lots of things that are wrong. But the ones you mention are clearly not among them I am afraid:

- outclimbed, outspeeded and outrolled by the RAF? Probably not Unless you are doing something seriously wrong.

- neg G has been fixed and reading the reports it seems that they're finally based on RL values. It was way too harsh in the previous patches. It is stil affecting the red fighters.

- Bf 109 made of paper - depends, sometimes you can get lucky and make him B/O with short burst, sometimes you hit him with loooong one and he keeps going and outruns /outclimbs you with no problem. I've been shot at by 109s I shot down in flames, but that goes for both sides I guess. I agree the 109 wings are too fragile when being hit by another 109 cannon and Spitfire wing is made too strong on the other hand.

Escaping red on your six? Easy. Keep flying straight and / or start shallow climb. Depending on how fast he is in the first place, obviously.. Or just neg-G and dive, then climb. He won't follow you if he's good and he will get you eventually but that's the way it is in combat when you have good pilot on your six. Spiral climb works prety well, too. It is possible to get out of very disadvantageous situations just by using the 109 abilities (and yours of course) simply due to the performance gap between 109 and RAF fighters. This is historicaly based, so fair enough, except for the gap not being that big. I hope you see what I am trying to say here.

Originally Posted by adonys

not to mention the controversial ones.. like many 109 pilots saying that they could actually outturn spits in turning fights.. you are aware that those slats are not in there for nothing, right?!!

You can do this in game - at certain speeds, or if the Spitfire pilot is not so good and you are. You can outturn a Hurrican no matter how good he is.