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I hope not, so far it has remained light hearted, for more than 20 replies! this seems to me to be quite unusual at the moment!
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In the absence of the scientific information (which can also be flawed depending on the controls of the tests etc.) the best that can be done is a meta analysis of these first hand anecdotal accounts. the mean results of the combined whole of these accounts will be more accurate than any individual account, and if that is all that there is to go on, then we should go with that IMHO. Regards, Sam. |
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RoF has no data like we do for WW2 aircraft. As such their flight models are based upon this kind of info. ![]() Sorry Sammi, but the graphs are out now and that only means one thing... Regards. Quote:
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Its the same as police witness statements. You can have ten witnesses all saying something different... Last edited by 5./JG27.Farber; 07-14-2012 at 04:43 PM. |
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Farber...does your rule apply to the LW veterans annecdotes too?
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![]() What about the BoB pilot reports where both Spitfire and 109 pilots claimed the other NEVER turned inside of the other and vice versa? Its circumstancial to that pilots experience and perspective, place and time, air speeds and energy and the perspective of those from thier own judgement and perspective... This doesnt mean it is not true! However as there are so many conflicting reports we can only resign such reports to "folklore" and use the factually evidence of air speed climb rate etc... Only when many pilots agree on something can we consider to use it. - For example the port wing dropping near landing aproaching the stall and other such minor things. Last edited by 5./JG27.Farber; 07-14-2012 at 04:53 PM. |
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Pilot, sorry, eyewitness accounts and memoirs are very often contemporaeneous to the events themselves and most were written if not during the war years then in their fairly immediate aftermath with logbooks and combat reports to back it up. Both RAF and LW accounts share a remarkable commonality in their fear of the bounce, the acceptance that most pilots shot down never saw their opponents and the acceptance that following an opponent round and round and round in a dogfight would invite a hail of lead from an unseen opportunist. Arguments on every flight sim forum I've ever visited about aeroplane performance always degenerate into some "expert" denying the veracity of pilot accounts that differ from their own dearly held views because they know their graphs hold the real truth. Last edited by arthursmedley; 07-14-2012 at 04:57 PM. |
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However the graph like the memories applied sensibly in the correct ratio should be good enough. You can never please everyone. We cant have it 100% accurate. Afterall we are all aces in the virtual world... Last edited by 5./JG27.Farber; 07-14-2012 at 05:06 PM. |
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+1!
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It's probably true, but only for the Hurricanes... since the main role of Spitfires was to engage the fighters, leaving the bombers to more stable and armed Hurricanes.
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![]() A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria. |
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Very popular but historically inaccurate misconception. Squadrons were ordered to scramble and engage in accordance with their availability and their proximity to approaching enemy formations. Type of aircraft flown counted for nought in the summer of 1940.
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