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Old 05-25-2012, 07:46 PM
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87 Octane was not used by RAF FC in frontline squadrons during the BofB.




Why is it proof?

Some guy says these aliens exist!! It must be true.
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OMG Crumpp has turned into raaaid.......
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[QUOTE=Crumpp;429244Why is it proof?

Some guy says these aliens exist!! It must be true.[/QUOTE]

Some guy says that the RAF used 87 octane on ops in the BOB with the same level of evidence. Is he the same guy?
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All sorts of things can be proven to be true even if there isn't any evidence to prove it - the reasoning goes that the evidence hasn't been found yet, or its a plot by ***** (add secret organisation here) to hide the truth from the great unwashed. For example, did anyone know that Hitler was a British Secret Agent???!!! And wait, there's MORE - Osama Bin Laden was an American Agent!!!!!!!!

Therefore, FC must have used 87 octane for the majority of its frontline, single engined fighters during the B of B because the evidence is out there...somewhere...
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Some guy says that the RAF used 87 octane on ops in the BOB with the same level of evidence. Is he the same guy?
David,

Have you found evidence that all Fighter Command Squadrons were using 100 octane fuel yet?

Do you still propose that thesis?
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Kurfurst, have you found any evidence that a single fighter in 11 group used 87 octane fuel during BoB yet?

We're still waiting.

Don't bother quoting the prewar document again, its worthless.

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Kurfurst, have you found any evidence that a single fighter in 11 group used 87 octane fuel during BoB yet?
Out of curiosity, what sort of evidence do you have in mind?

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We're still waiting.
Out of curiosity, who are 'we'?
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:23 PM
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87 octane and RAF FC during the BofB, you have yet to provide even a shred of evidence for your contention.
Other than it is the specified fuel and listed in all the Operating Notes besides the Spitfire Mk II as the required fuel for the type?

Or the fact it is the largest portion of aviation fuel in the Air Ministry and 100 Octane does not make a significant portion of fuel at the airfields until after October 1940?

Seems a pretty lock tight case that 87 Octane fuel was used in considerable amounts....at least according to the Air Ministry.
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Other than it is the specified fuel and listed in all the Operating Notes besides the Spitfire Mk II as the required fuel for the type?

Or the fact it is the largest portion of aviation fuel in the Air Ministry and 100 Octane does not make a significant portion of fuel at the airfields until after October 1940?

Seems a pretty lock tight case that 87 Octane fuel was used in considerable amounts....at least according to the Air Ministry.

So what RAF FC squadrons were using 87 octane fuel.

Well of course 87 octane fuel was used in considerable amounts as the a/c in other RAF Commands require the fuel.
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Other than it is the specified fuel and listed in all the Operating Notes besides the Spitfire Mk II as the required fuel for the type?
Ignoring the evidence re 12 lb boost being linked to 100 octane

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Or the fact it is the largest portion of aviation fuel in the Air Ministry and 100 Octane does not make a significant portion of fuel at the airfields until after October 1940?
After it had been released to All operational Commands so not unexpected.

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Seems a pretty lock tight case that 87 Octane fuel was used in considerable amounts....at least according to the Air Ministry.
Correct, by Bomber Command, Training Command, Coastal Command, Manufaturing plants of engines and aircraft, BOAC and of course other Non operational units but not operational Fighter Command units.

You are the one that seems to stick to the 16 + 2 pre war proposal, but have no papers to support it. All we ( you can include me in that we) are waiting for is anything that supports your contention.
Anything at all, a reference to which squadrons, or which stations, or any decision as to timing or reporting path, a book that complains about being moved to an 87 otane unit/station or indeed one that rejoices as the move to a 100 octane unit/station. Absolutely anything at all, note not everything that supports your view, just anything that supports your view

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