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Old 05-25-2012, 07:50 PM
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OMG Crumpp has turned into raaaid.......
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:58 PM
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[QUOTE=Crumpp;429244Why is it proof?

Some guy says these aliens exist!! It must be true.[/QUOTE]

Some guy says that the RAF used 87 octane on ops in the BOB with the same level of evidence. Is he the same guy?
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:21 PM
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All sorts of things can be proven to be true even if there isn't any evidence to prove it - the reasoning goes that the evidence hasn't been found yet, or its a plot by ***** (add secret organisation here) to hide the truth from the great unwashed. For example, did anyone know that Hitler was a British Secret Agent???!!! And wait, there's MORE - Osama Bin Laden was an American Agent!!!!!!!!

Therefore, FC must have used 87 octane for the majority of its frontline, single engined fighters during the B of B because the evidence is out there...somewhere...
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:30 PM
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Some guy says these aliens exist!! It must be true.
I'm sure that you believe in them, but regarding 87 octane and RAF FC during the BofB, you have yet to provide even a shred of evidence for your contention.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:15 PM
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I suspect that there's more chance of bumping into aliens than seeing these pilot anecdotes of flying at +16 LBS on 87 octane.
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Old 05-26-2012, 04:10 AM
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Why is it proof?

Some guy says these aliens exist!! It must be true.
What proof do you have that front line squadrons used 87 octane fuel? Don't bother saying manuals/notes but give the Squadrons in 11 Group that used 87 octane fuel.

There has to be at least 6 as the other 16 squadrons were using 100 octane fuel as per Morgan and Shacklady.
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:07 AM
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Some guy says that the RAF used 87 octane on ops in the BOB with the same level of evidence. Is he the same guy?
David,

Have you found evidence that all Fighter Command Squadrons were using 100 octane fuel yet?

Do you still propose that thesis?
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:43 AM
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Kurfurst, have you found any evidence that a single fighter in 11 group used 87 octane fuel during BoB yet?

We're still waiting.

Don't bother quoting the prewar document again, its worthless.

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Old 06-02-2012, 11:57 AM
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Kurfurst, have you found any evidence that a single fighter in 11 group used 87 octane fuel during BoB yet?
Out of curiosity, what sort of evidence do you have in mind?

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We're still waiting.
Out of curiosity, who are 'we'?
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:23 PM
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87 octane and RAF FC during the BofB, you have yet to provide even a shred of evidence for your contention.
Other than it is the specified fuel and listed in all the Operating Notes besides the Spitfire Mk II as the required fuel for the type?

Or the fact it is the largest portion of aviation fuel in the Air Ministry and 100 Octane does not make a significant portion of fuel at the airfields until after October 1940?

Seems a pretty lock tight case that 87 Octane fuel was used in considerable amounts....at least according to the Air Ministry.
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