making CloD a success

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

We've been through this Alpha. I've flown plenty of em. I've used HL for years. If you read what I said (what you even quoted) you'd see why I loved HL.

But the real war never started at the same time, both sides never knew exactly where the other team was. That's what happens when you start a COOP. You fly and meet in the middle. A dynamic setting is one in which anything can happen at any time. We fly coops inside of this type of situation on coms on a daily basis.

That's just so untrue. Worse, you know it to be untrue because CLOD just doesn't have coop.

So you're saying untruths.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by addman

P.S Since the mods don't care, could you ATAG guys please stop gang-bullying furbs, it's extremely tasteless. I am aware that this an online forum but try to act as the adults you are and show some class instead of acting like high-fiving 7-year olds.

I call him out on his lie and I'm bullying him? I should bow down to his conspiracy theories and speculation on stuff he knows nothing about. Dream on. I am acting like a man. I call out BS as I see it, especially in person.

[JG5_emil]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

Why does people think this is a for or against argument? I think the more online options we have the better.

Well I'm glad you've cleared that up because it looked like you were adamantly against improving the ability to run CO-OPs.

Yes it is technically possible but no it isn't easy in my opinion and it requires workarounds to put it mildly.

The lack of chat makes it hard to find opponents unlike with Hyperlobby.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by Seeker

That's just so untrue. Worse, you know it to be untrue because CLOD just doesn't have coop.

So you're saying untruths.

So the in the real war pilots all fired up their machines at the same exact second and met in the middle? haha

And IL2COD has COOPs. It has servers that rotate missions as well. It has objective based missions.

You know what is true about every single mode of play? It has to be made.

As DF server, you think there's some sort of GUI within this dos box that says "objective 1 click here to make" or "rotate mission by clicking this button"? No, of course not. All of that stuff that makes DF servers to their thing and COOP servers do their thing has to be programmed in the mission.

Why aren't people like me raising an uproar asking for a GUI to run a DF server? Oh wait, that's because we just figured out how to do it on our own. Guess what? COOPs use the same strategy.

[furbs]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

I call him out on his lie and I'm bullying him? I should bow down to his conspiracy theories and speculation on stuff he knows nothing about. Dream on. I am acting like a man. I call out BS as I see it, especially in person.

Where did i lie?

Mission ready...where do i send it?

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by JG5_emil

Well I'm glad you've cleared that up because it looked like you were adamantly against improving the ability to run CO-OPs.

Please find one quote where I said anything of the sort "against improving the GUI for COOP".

Good luck.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by furbs

Where did i lie?

Mission ready...where do i send it?

How can you already forget?

I've said twice in this thread to attach it.

[JG5_emil]

A dog fight server is not a COOP in the way that nearly everyone else but you seems to understand.

I've said it before but I'll say it again. The COOP is to simulate a meeting engagement often (but not always) one that is historical.So this is something that HAS happened in real life.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by addman

P.S I'd go as far to say that they are biased in this matter since their server(s) are dependent on the fact that people CAN'T play "traditional" coops.

Maybe they can`t realise that people are not ready for this. It needs to be a smooth transition. There was no need to invent the whole thing again from the start (sorry, I know this have been repeated many times before) If the new GUI provides more options then we`re both winners, although there is trouble running traditional coops.

I agree with Bliss that the 3rd party needs to get an opportunity to make it work, but some of us anticipated this already coming with CloD. If not exactly the same coops, then the same foundation expanded with new features. Now it seems that those people don`t have too many options when wanting to fly online at this moment.

Also I do not get the impression that traditional coop fans need to argue about this. IMO the aim is in bringing back the IL2 online experience.

[furbs]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

I would be ashamed of myself if this is "their thing". What is that?

This "thing" is a training mission where a squdron of spits intercepts bombers escorted by 109's heading for England.

Pretty much what the Battle of Britain was about, wouldn't you agree?