how are these 109s turns 180 with out penalties?

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by recoilfx

Brit planes are easy to pick up.

Any plane is easy to pick up. But it's difficult to fly it on it's best potential.

Mastif you just got to be more careful fighting good 109 jockeys, as I said, they are extremely agile and can roll into your turn easily. Emil's turn rate at higher speed is very good, too, fyi. Using trim and good rudder control, you can turn with a Spitfire for long enough to place a good burst and you'll have plenty energy left to extend, rinse and repeat.