Why no E4s

[Blackdog_kt]

I'm not saying it's not possible, i prefer to fly the E-1 too because of the longer firing times.

I'm just saying that MGs need tracking shots which give the bomber somewhat of a fighting chance. Cannons with m-shells on the other hand are deadly in high angle, high deflection snapshots which take the bombers completely by surprise.

Using the QMB in the old IL2 1946 i could down four B-17s with ace AI gunners without using any Mk108s, just 20mm guns, in full difficulty settings. In CoD with the more "human" AI gunners that miss, it's trivially easy to swoop down on a bomber from its high 3 and knock a wing off if you have m-shells. I've done it a lot of times not only against Blennies, but also bigger and harder targets like Wellingtons and Sunderlands that have wider firing arcs and more defensive guns.

If you also have a wingman (AI or human) to make a feigned pass and draw the attention of the turrets to the opposite direction before you dive on it and give it a short burst, it becomes a cakewalk because our new more realistic turrets have limited arc travel rates.

Of course, the E-4 can't be withheld forever. But when it comes post-patch, the Blens will have escort that doesn't CTD when it looks in their direction and the E-4 itself will be faster to deal with those escorts, according to its proper specs.

Then, blue bomber busting will probably fall to the 110 which will also be faster and harder hitting, perfect choice as long as it doesn't stick around to dogfight with fighters.

[TomcatViP]

The Blenheim was in fact an easy target to shot down. It was not a robust B-17. It dooes not need heavy fighters to get downed such as a 110.

ALtought personaly I think it's more fun when bombers are hard to shot down, it's a nonsense historically speaking with that type.

But I agree that the E4 guns are way overmodeled and need a correction (still I hve no prob with the speed contrary to many).

But please note that Bleheim in game have a superior cruise speed than the Ju88 hve. This does not seems to be accurate. I am always amazed at the pour souls nearly sailing their Ju88 past the English coast so slowly that even a Lyslander could intercept them !

@Martin77 : there is much more hacked FM flying now on the red side. Don't think that you need to change your tactics because red have improved theirs owns, think more in term of wich fight you hve to commit yourself and when you hve to run/extend/disco (?). And yes it's much like old Il2 4.10 and their stupid 51s .They just used the same risible trickeries.

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

But I agree that the E4 guns are way overmodeled and need a correction (still I hve no prob with the speed contrary to many).

Overmodelled? What basis do you say that? Or just feel it?

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

Overmodelled? What basis do you say that? Or just feel it?

Hi Tom,

see here pls : http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28256

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Hi Tom,

see here pls : http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28256

Hi. Ok, i remember now, i read that topic. I dont think, that any weapon overmodelled in the game, i think the .303 undermodelled, but it's another topic.

[TomcatViP]

Frankly I never heard any ace having shot 3 German bombers in a raw. I rather inclined to think otherwise when I see those pictures of crash landed bombers filled with thousands of bullets holes.

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Frankly I never heard any ace having shot 3 German bombers in a raw. I rather inclined to think otherwise when I see those pictures of crash landed bombers filled with thousands of bullets holes.

I read once, that one US pilot shot down 5 Ju52 in a row (ok, it's not a bomber, but big-birds ). The yankee catch them during landing, and shot them all.
I don't find now, who was the pilot...

[ATAG_Bliss]

Our 2nd server has E4's and SpitIIa's (both limited) but they are there.

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

I read once, that one US pilot shot down 5 Ju52 in a row (ok, it's not a bomber, but big-birds ). The yankee catch them during landing, and shot them all.
I don't find now, who was the pilot...

12.7mm is not 7.7mm : twice the diameter-> 4 times the kin effect and 4 times more volume for explosives

During the north african campaign, Ju52 crossing the med were slaughtered en Masse

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

12.7mm is not 7.7mm : twice the diameter-> 4 times the kin effect and 4 times more volume for explosives [/i]

Yep, you're right.
(below 20mm, all is "small caliber" for me )