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Old 01-25-2012, 10:32 AM
WhistlinggDeath WhistlinggDeath is offline
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Interesting info Papa, but I respectfully disagree. The TA in particular has been toasted and the FWs and Mustangs to a slightly lesser degree. And yes, any team (even relatively untrained members) can use five FWs to bring down one Spit 25lbs. I could use five Japanese float planes to do the same thing too. That is pretty much meaningless. And that is not a true test of metal. What counts is one versus one, same alt, ... no firing on first pass, then the fight is on. Try it and you will clearly see the deterioration of the engine in most BnZ centered planes with 4.11.

I think tomorrow, I am going to release a flight model for the TA 152 H1 in 4.11 that sets specs for it back to the 4.10.1 flight model. I will call this new model TA 4.10.1, but it will be made only for fully patched 4.11 versions of IL2. Then Ulti and I will demonstrate quite clearly for all who enjoy ntrks, just how badly it has been borked in 4.11. Whichever one of us flies the 4.10.1 model will beat the living s%%! out of the other one, and do so easily.

Once we test it and make some laughable NTRKs, we will release it to some select testers.

Another point many of you are not catching is that I (or we, my few buds) are not against overheating models or more realistic engine handling.

WE $%^&$%! LOVE THAT STUFF !

Heck, I wrote a guide about prop pitch at M4T to help out guys who got confused. We welcome more realistic engine flight models. We just dont think it is applied fairly as it stands in 4.11. The BnZ planes took it in the butt, and the TA got double teamed into the toilet, while the Spit 25lbs and 185 are very lightly affected. Also, from what I can read so far (and I have more to learn), the 4.11 TA or FW models arent holding up to the general consensus on real world planes. In real life, I keep seeing a figure of ten minutes for boost with the TA. It was designed to be a diving killer, .. not an overheating Ki-61 turd that exits out of the fight after pass one.

So Papa, do what I did. Take the TA 152 H1, get her up to 1000m in level flight at 530 kph and dont pressure the engine (take a bit to get up to full speed). Then take a small dive to translate a little KE and put on boost and power up to 110% and climb steeply (as if escaping a chasing spit 25lbs). By the time you reach your apex (after about 1870m of climb) and are close to complete stall, your engine will be in serious overheat.

In one pass.

Now try this in ole 4.10.1 and notice the extreme difference. The delta is large in 4.11 for the TA. Very large.

Now try this for say the Spit 25lbs. The difference between 4.11 and 4.10.1 is fairly small. A bit of overheat but nothing really kicks in for quite a bit.

Ponder on it a bit.

Last edited by WhistlinggDeath; 01-25-2012 at 10:47 AM.
 


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