Battle for Moscow

[jamesdietz]

One certainly expects this to be part of it( a screenshot from years ago f4rom a preview of the upcoming Sword of War ...now of course...Cliffs of Dover

[JG5_emil]

Originally Posted by kalimba

We are kind of a "captive" community...No more other real good ww2 air combat sim out there.
So , just by curiosity, lets pretend that 1C had completely abandonned CLOD,
but was able to come out with a full featured new game with Moscow theater in September of 2012 , with all the bells and whisles as promised in CLOD,
would you forgive 1C and run to buy it ? If most of us are thinking "YEAH !", then this is probably what we will get....To be honnest, those of us who are still reading and writing on 1C's forums are all craving for a top notch game....We are addicts...SO whatever the price, we will still be there to buy anything good 1C is going to put out....I think they know that...

Salute !

I'd be cautious to be honest because I don't have a lot of time for games etc and only spent so much on my rig for CLOD really. I have always dreamed of being able to fly a BOB sim so I would want to see if the users dropped CLOD as well.

If all the good stuff was ported to CLOD as I believe it will be and there are plenty of people flying bob missions then I would buy it.

[JG5_emil]

Originally Posted by kalimba

That bad ? I tought the majority was able to play the game as is on good machines...
But I still think that the new game will be out before major patching is done on COD...Hope I am wrong !

Salute !

Yeh like me for example I can fly it with most settings turned up but after 55 minutes it crashes...thats fine for dogfight servers but not for CO-OPs....that is if there were CO-OPs out there to fly which there aren't because it is badly implemented.

I do think there will be a patch to address the CTD which will be part of the updated engine but there are many things missing and I think that is where you are right. We probably wont get radio commands/better ai, dynamic weather and loads of other things until BOM.

The question is can they give us enough to keep us flying until it is released?

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Dear friend, I was there in 2001. When IL2 came out. Its not the same team. Its not the same man in charge. Different times....all whats left is the name IL2 which they desecrated with this **** (in its former and current state).

CoD yet even in it's current state and all it's problems is miles and leages above IL2. The core is alive and kicking, just the stuff around it is rotten. But that is something I can live with. Besides, it is not as if Oleg sat down back in those days and programmed this Sim al by himself. There is a whole team behind him that is still active. If they do not know their stuff by now, then nobody does. The only point where I currently agree is the CTD issue, wished they'd release a hot fix for that, but that is not enough to break the whole sword over the guys.

You may be of different opinion, but that's it, your personal opinion. Don't make it out to be generally accepted when it is quite obviously not.

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

Hey Tree,

You must not have played Microsofts Combat Flight Simulator3, the definition of unplayable at release and 1-2 years after for some. Needless to say, that was the end of big bucks MS and it's cfs series. The sim (COD) plays fine for me just needs some optimization or a next gen video card to realy get going(some planes need a fix here or there too), hey that sounds like IL2 back in 2001.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by MajorBoris

Hey Tree,
You must not have played Microsofts Combat Flight Simulator3, the definition of unplayable at release and 1-2 years after for some. Needless to say, that was the end of big bucks MS and it's cfs series. The sim (COD) plays fine for me just needs some optimization or a next gen video card to realy get going(some planes need a fix here or there too), hey that sounds like IL2 back in 2001.

+1
That and I guess he never tried SH5!

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

+1
That and I guess he never tried SH5!

SO, COD is a lesser failure by comparison, so we should be lesser whinners..

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by kalimba

That bad ? I tought the majority was able to play the game as is on good machines...
But I still think that the new game will be out before major patching is done on COD...Hope I am wrong !

Salute !

you have to bear in mind that in Trees world he is the majority

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

CoD yet even in it's current state and all it's problems is miles and leages above IL2. The core is alive and kicking, just the stuff around it is rotten. But that is something I can live with. Besides, it is not as if Oleg sat down back in those days and programmed this Sim al by himself. There is a whole team behind him that is still active. If they do not know their stuff by now, then nobody does. The only point where I currently agree is the CTD issue, wished they'd release a hot fix for that, but that is not enough to break the whole sword over the guys.

You may be of different opinion, but that's it, your personal opinion. Don't make it out to be generally accepted when it is quite obviously not.

Thank you Bewolf, I was hoping someone inteligent would convey what I really wanted to say

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

The same is true of North Korea.......point is many institutions go through a change of leadership but the institutions remain the same.

Funny thing is this 'different team' excuse that some try to applied to CoD does not even apply to IL-2.!

In that the IL-2 team even changed over 10+ years of development.

What is the same is the 1C standards and way of doing things..

Which was clear to 'most' when Luither said CoD will follow in IL-2 foot steps wrt updates and sequels.

Sadly some still choose to ignore that statement by Luither.. Because it does not fit well into their agenda.