Kinect?

[Troll2k]

I know it has been posted before but this is a poor man's track IR.

If you already have a webcam and do not have track IR it is worth a look.

http://facetracknoir.sourceforge.net/home/default.htm

[Zappatime]

6dof head tracking thats glitch free would be the obviuos thing for simmers

[MD_Titus]

clickable pit working with a kinect would be an interesting idea. maybe have some kind of wearable thumb button to "hold" a lever.

[hiro]

look at the bright side,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNremK0cBEg

g4m3 ON!

[engadin]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

clickable pit working with a kinect would be an interesting idea. maybe have some kind of wearable thumb button to "hold" a lever.

That's it! A perfect way to forget the good ol' keyboard times. Just move your hand, kinect detects it, you see your virtual hand moving towards a button on the cockpit panel and click it. And even more, you could move the virtual stick and throttle by means of kinect. But, on the other hand, it would be, I am afraid, a lot more of effort involved in keeping both hands 'on the air' - moving the virtual controls - than when holding the 'real' ones.

On a second thought, there is always the chance to make two mock stick and throttle - wood or whatever - and fix them in the same place they hold in the virtual cockpit. Next step would be to fine tune kinect so it could recognize our hands on both controls, so when holding the 'real' controls we can see our ''virtual' hands holding the 'virtual' ones. Hey! there is a market niche for those of you, handymans, for producing the mock controls matching exactly in the real world with the position in the virtual space hold by the virtual ones, so that Kinect handles them when you actuate the real ones.

It's sad, nevertheless, to realize that those of us FFB addicts should have to say bye, bye to it then, IMHO. Can't have the best of both worlds!

And you add this to the Sony HMZ-T1 VR Headset with a head tracker like Track IR 5 - http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28031 -, sky is the limit!.

Dreaming is free, anyway.

Engadin.

[sorak]

Kinect could obviously do head tracking as well...

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by engadin

That's it! A perfect way to forget the good ol' keyboard times. Just move your hand, kinect detects it, you see your virtual hand moving towards a button on the cockpit panel and click it. And even more, you could move the virtual stick and throttle by means of kinect. But, on the other hand, it would be, I am afraid, a lot more of effort involved in keeping both hands 'on the air' - moving the virtual controls - than when holding the 'real' ones.

On a second thought, there is always the chance to make two mock stick and throttle - wood or whatever - and fix them in the same place they hold in the virtual cockpit. Next step would be to fine tune kinect so it could recognize our hands on both controls, so when holding the 'real' controls we can see our ''virtual' hands holding the 'virtual' ones. Hey! there is a market niche for those of you, handymans, for producing the mock controls mating exactly in the real world with the position in the virtual space hold by the virtual ones, so that Kinect handles them when you actuate the real ones.

It's sad, nevertheless, to realize that those of us FFB addicts should have to say bye, bye to it then, IMHO. Can't have the best of both worlds!

And you add this to the Sony HMZ-T1 VR Headset with a head tracker like Track IR 5 - http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28031 -, sky is the limit!.

Dreaming is free, anyway.

Engadin.

Oh no, keep hotas controls in there for both ergonomic reasons and immersion, but having panel controls, fuel pumps etc assignable to either a keypress or kinect interaction would be kinda cool. Literally flicki g the switches.

[Rattlehead]

I'm not sure Kinect would big a big seller with the simulation crowd, assuming a developer even implements it into a game.
Track IR is more than adequate for motion sensing gaming fun.

The Kinect, despite selling well, is struggling to find a core audience of hardcore gamers even on consoles, where they have games specifically designed for it.
It remains to be seen if the Kinect can break out of the novelty market it find itself in.

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

I'm not sure Kinect would big a big seller with the simulation crowd, assuming a developer even implements it into a game.
Track IR is more than adequate for motion sensing gaming fun.

The Kinect, despite selling well, is struggling to find a core audience of hardcore gamers even on consoles, where they have games specifically designed for it.
It remains to be seen if the Kinect can break out of the novelty market it find itself in.

It can and will. Especially for real world applications like gesture control in the regular living environment. Do you still use real switches for the light in your room e.g.? I replaced some with sensors but it's still far from complete gesture controls. E.g. you could point and move spotlights, dim and change colors and much more.

It just takes a bit of time. Games are quick to make but a real world item for daily use needs to undergo a more thorough development.

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by engadin

That's it! A perfect way to forget the good ol' keyboard times. Just move your hand, kinect detects it, you see your virtual hand moving towards a button on the cockpit panel and click it. And even more, you could move the virtual stick and throttle by means of kinect. But, on the other hand, it would be, I am afraid, a lot more of effort involved in keeping both hands 'on the air' - moving the virtual controls - than when holding the 'real' ones.

On a second thought, there is always the chance to make two mock stick and throttle - wood or whatever - and fix them in the same place they hold in the virtual cockpit. Next step would be to fine tune kinect so it could recognize our hands on both controls, so when holding the 'real' controls we can see our ''virtual' hands holding the 'virtual' ones. Hey! there is a market niche for those of you, handymans, for producing the mock controls matching exactly in the real world with the position in the virtual space hold by the virtual ones, so that Kinect handles them when you actuate the real ones.

It's sad, nevertheless, to realize that those of us FFB addicts should have to say bye, bye to it then, IMHO. Can't have the best of both worlds!

And you add this to the Sony HMZ-T1 VR Headset with a head tracker like Track IR 5 - http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28031 -, sky is the limit!.

Dreaming is free, anyway.

Engadin.

Sorry to burst your bubble but how many times exactly did you look at your buttons and switches in your car to e.g. use your signal lights, turn on the lights, the horn, switch gears or turn up the volume? I never do that, ever.

It might seem like a solution at first but it's definately not working. I know this because I tried it already (with HMD) in the past and it was a pain in the butt.

I have a few ideas and tried a couple of things but what I ended up with was completely disconnected from real buttons and haptic controls in locations like the virtual ones in game.