IL2 and Sound Modding

[fly_zo]

Originally Posted by 123-Wulf-123

Yes Brando, strangely enough I was brought up to believe in right and wrong, honesty and respect.

It seems nowadays that all those values mean nothing its all a part of the "want it, and I better get it now", generation of immature, spoilt, ungracious little AHs that blame everyone and everything for THEIR crimes, after all if they can't get what they want, and have to steal it surely it isn't their fault ? They were "FORCED" to break the law .......

...when one thinks about what was legal during WW2 in Germany surely must realize that right/wrong doesn't always go hand in hand with legal. So crimes term isn't standing in context with right/wrong.

...and all name calling shows us how mature you really are . He,he ... no arguments leads to insults in your honestly and respect world .

[Baron]

Originally Posted by fly_zo

...when one thinks about what was legal during WW2 in Germany surely must realize that right/wrong doesn't always go hand in hand with legal. So crimes term isn't standing in context with right/wrong.

...and all name calling shows us how mature you really are . He,he ... no arguments leads to insults in your honestly and respect world .

OMG...u just dont get it, do u?

By posting garbage like this u just proved Brando and Wolf to be right on the money.

Couldnt agree more with them myselfe.


Right and wrong is only something to stride for if u get something out of it, right?


Do u people even think before u write, do u think beyond the 1 m hemisphere surrounding u, do u considering anything but your own needs...or do u listen to I-Pod and read a comic book at the same time u are forming your all knowing oppinions?

[fly_zo]

Originally Posted by Baron

OMG...u just dont get it, do u?

By posting garbage like this u just proved Brando and Wolf to be right on the money.

Couldnt agree more with them myselfe.


Right and wrong is only something to stride for if u get something out of it, right?


Do u people even think before u write, do u think beyond the 1 m hemisphere surrounding u, do u considering anything but your own needs...or do u listen to I-Pod and read a comic book at the same time u are forming your all knowing oppinions?

well it is obviously too complicated for you so i'll try to take it down to your level of understanding: just because things are legal it doesn't make them right ! Simple enough or i shall draw pictures for you ?

[jasonbirder]

its the sneaky buggers using the "slightly tweaked" FM and the visibility hacks that are killing the legal game for sure, and strangely you hackers tend to avoid discussing those particular hacks....I wonder why?

Probably because the overwhelming majority of IL2 players have absolutely no interest at all in what happens in dogfight server rooms...Something that only affects a tiny (though heaven knows, a very vocal) minority.

To the vast majority of players - what a few "win at all costs" players choose to do in a handful of "come as you are" open access stat driven dogfight servers, has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on their day to day enjoyment of this game.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

Probably because the overwhelming majority of IL2 players have absolutely no interest at all in what happens in dogfight server rooms...Something that only affects a tiny (though heaven knows, a very vocal) minority.

To the vast majority of players - what a few "win at all costs" players choose to do in a handful of "come as you are" open access stat driven dogfight servers, has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on their day to day enjoyment of this game.

I don't think that the online community, even the ones that prefer DF servers is a "a tiny (though heaven knows, a very vocal) minority". That is one of the myths that is fostered by those who have no problems with the mods. Most of the offline only fliers are not online.. meaning they aren't even here so we really don't know their numbers without figures from UBI... The guys who come here and prefer to fly offline are not the entire offline community... Not only that as someone earlier posted.. I think that because of technological improvements that there are more onliners than there were when that original statement was made by Oleg @ 4 or 5 years ago. Also... it is not just in DF servers... online flying is not just DF servers.. it is coops too... don't forget that... What makes you think that if someone were inclined to cheat that they would only do so on a DF server?

As for mods and cheating.. Not all those who use the mods are cheaters... that is also a fact.... but all those who are inclined to cheat will and do, not only here but in any kind of online competitive venue, use mods to do so if they are available.

[JG52Uther]

Baron yes I did confuse you with someone else sorry.I don't think issuing threats is really necessary but still,maybe thats how things are done where you live.
I don't really know how to answer your question about me providing proof of no cheating?I suppose I could post a few 'no cheating' tracks.If you want some let me know.

[crazyivan1970]

@BC – Look, sorry if I was too strong in my statements, but that`s how it is… besides, I am perfectly aware of your "position on the matter" mate, you seem to find a new home at hackers forum along with Quazie, which is rather disturbing. But don’t you mind me

@Others – what I find amusing that people that asking to post prove (tracks) are the same people that PERFECTLY aware of what they are capable of… let`s not play kiddies games, why don’t you guys show off your capabilities. I am sure you can amaze us all.
Folks, you are failing to understand one thing… those who fly 4 cannon I-16 or whatever are obvious and easy to expose, they are the list of my concerns. Think bigger - small, almost invisible advantages, that will ruin your flying experience… added few km/h here and there, just enough to pull away when needed (but hey, I had good speed to begin with) or changed ammo belt, or altered DM..(dude, you cannot shot for sh$$t) See thru plane components… I can go on and on… You are asking to post the obvious… that`s easy to see and maintain… Try to spot little things. They are the most harmful. When source becomes free for all, game is over. I don’t need to see 1000 examples of some “other” sims that supposedly blossomed because of community input. I don’t buy any of those… Right or wrong – as long as developer in control, game is not jeopardized, end of story. Once it`s out to public, maintaining purity of the game/sim becomes problematic, near impossible… Why? Human nature – MUST WIN AT ALL COSTS. Everything else is secondary.

[crazyivan1970]

P.S. stop hiding in your little forum, if you have something to say, say it here. I do read it but dont think for a second that i will register there

[Viking]

Well the same goes for you Ivan! If they have something to say to you over there why you bring it over here?

[fly_zo]

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

P.S. stop hiding in your little forum, if you have something to say, say it here. I do read it but dont think for a second that i will register there

hiding? you mean browsing without registering ... or registering with dif. nick... so you can use mods and still preach here against?