CoD vs some other sims that model Kent?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Pictures showing comparisons with areas of england in WoP have not been posted in this thread.
Pictures showing the representation of vegetation compared to photos of modern-day Britain have (largely, the layout is quite similar to that of the 1940's. see here:



a modern picture: similar to the above, in many respects, and again, more similar in LAYOUT to WoP than CoD



please, read everything I write, don't be selective.

I read everything, and I haven't been selective at all.

The bottom image LAYOUT looks just like CoD. In fact, the LAYOUT in BOTH images looks like CoD. Where is the WoP image so we can compare them?

You wont see many pics of field to field comparisons in here because this is the CoD forum, why dont you pop over to the WoP forum and have a look?
Dude I still cant belive you are still here 42 pages later banging on about how shit WoP is, your argument now hinges on something you said you havent seen, so go look.

I agree Phil that WoP terrain is extremely detailed and does have the English feel way more over CoD. To be honest i think at the moment it looks more like Russia or Ukrane in the summer, with UK factories and some houses and Windmills from Holland
I also think that if CoD works for some then when its improved they will be very happy but at the moment the skies are a bit lonely because not everyone who has bought the game can run it because of the coding issues they are trying to solve.
Hopefully when they get it sorted they will look at improving the terrain model somewhat but i think our hedges are a loong way off.

[Buchon]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Is this summer ?, because the Battle over Britain was in summer.

Dont looks like that photo was taken in summer, the grass is not yellowed by the hot of the summer, it looks like in spring.

Just like in WOP, the England map in WOP looks like spring or autumn.

Pretty green and grass to eye-candy players instead do an historical accurate environment.

Dead grass goes yellow, maybe in the height of summer after no rain some fields might fade a bit but not all. Grass gets its green colour from the sun through photosynthasis, if the grass moved away from green to much it wouldnt be able to process the sunlight and would die. Then turn yellow.

[philip.ed]

Buchon: looks like spring to me pal.
I wasn't focusing on colours when posting that; just the composition of the landscape. To me, this is England how I have seen it from the air (colours are objective) but yes, I'd imagine this to be spring-time

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

Dude I still cant belive you are still here 42 pages later banging on about how shit WoP is, your argument now hinges on something you said you havent seen, so go look.

I'm not talking about how shit WoP is. I removed it from my computer. I don't care how shit it is. I'm talking about how great CoD looks. The WoP fanboys don't seem to agree with me. Maybe they should head over to the WoP boards, eh?

[David Hayward]

The photographer used a circular polarizer to take that photo, so the colors are not what you would actually see with your eyes.

I think you might feel a little different if you bought CoD, one of the first things your realise when you pause the game and you can still move the camera and all the lighting and shadows still move etc is how easy it is to set up high quality screen shots, I mean you can even turn up the graphics while paused, take your screen and turn it down again.
So honestly its not that hard to focus on the bits that do look good granted, but when you play it I have to agree with philip that the terrain just doesnt feel like a country but more like a mixture of different countries, feels odd, cant really explain it.

Originally Posted by David Hayward

The photographer used a circular polarizer to take that photo, so the colors are not what you would actually see with your eyes.

True they would be paler, but then the colours in photos are never what you really see i guess

[phoenix1963]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

...I think that, overall, CoD is better, but you have to understand, that areas of WoP have their merits.

I largely agree with philip.ed's opinion, we've made similar comments long before CloD was released.
What's noticeable about the WoP pictures is the obvious object budget and hence limited detail in the distance and the use of haze. But actually, CloD could do with MORE haze, because that's what it's like in SE England almost all the time. philip.ed's posted view of the countryside looks unusually clear.
Where I think Oleg might have a point is the lack of colour saturation in the middle of the day. If you remember he challenged some critic to send him a RAW format photo, presumably on the grounds that jpeg etc may have hyped contrast. Certainly, when the sun is low, CloD looks a lot more how I experience Kent, but there's a fair bit of human perception involved as the eye darts around the scene, with the brain adjusting contrast continually. I've photographed landscapes specifically to compare with, supposedly realistic, paintings - you wouldn't believe the difference!
As philip.ed and others say, the lack of hedgerows is a real immersion killer. I suspect that's because they'd have to be tailored for the bumpy ground, but I don't know a great deal about modern graphics.

This is a good discussion, nobody here is trying to damage CloD, I think we all want it to succeed. But I also want to give pointers about how it could be better.

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