CoD vs some other sims that model Kent?

[Therion_Prime]

Btw. nice WoP videos Mysticpuma. They look almost photorealistic!

[pupaxx]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

What are we supposed to be looking at here? I'm not familiar enough with the English countryside to know what's missing, or is in the wrong place, or should not be there.

i was talking about how landscape elements are represented in WoP and CloD; how hedgerows, trees, bushes, field boundaries are simulated. the pics show in parallel these elements and how they are resolved...4me more naturally in WoP. the conformation of these objects seem more naturally looking in WoP. I submitted the picts at your judgement stop.

[JumpingHubert]

i have two things to say:

-in clod the very detailed elements of landscape "doesn´t come together". I hope you understand what i mean. In wop they come together more organic.

-in wop the color filter is a little bit overdone. For some experts here: its not only a green filter. On some maps there are blue filters too. In Clod there is (except low sun scenarios) nearly no filter. We need for example for clod a little bit blue filter to simulate atmosphere (yes, its blue). The farer you can look, the more blue.

[klem]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

What are we supposed to be looking at here? I'm not familiar enough with the English countryside to know what's missing, or is in the wrong place, or should not be there.

Its mainly about the way the English counytryside is represented. Throughout the Thread there are FSX photo scenery shots and, it seems, some WoP shots that show hedgerows as continuous natural growths of bush interspersed with trees (not individually trees strung out as if planted to improve a desert road) and woods formed of interlocking trees (not a patch of ground with a few widely spaced trees scattered across it). The CoD feeling of the terrain is quite cartoon like in that respect.

We may not be counting the trees as someone said but if you live here and its part of your history you'd like it to represent what it is. It's an important part of the immersion.

"I'm flying over Kent, lets have a look. Oh no, it's a scene from the seven dwarfs." Apologies to 1C but you'll get the idea.

[RocketDog]

Klem, that's exactly how I feel about it. Neatly put.

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by JumpingHubert

-in clod the very detailed elements of landscape "doesn´t come together". I hope you understand what i mean. In wop they come together more organic.

That is very well put!

I think it is a matter of distribution of "things" (tees, houses, willages etc) is a bit too even. From what I remember flying over England, trees would be clumped together in discreet woodlots, houses and farms would be found fairly close together etc. A quick look at Google Earth comnfirms this.

That, and hedgerows!

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Friendly_flyer

That is very well put!

I think it is a matter of distribution of "things" (tees, houses, willages etc) is a bit too even. From what I remember flying over England, trees would be clumped together in discreet woodlots, houses and farms would be found fairly close together etc. A quick look at Google Earth comnfirms this.

That, and hedgerows!

but it would have been very different in 1939/40, isn't that the point, all the photorealistic scenery ideas floating around have that 1 fatal flaw, and modern britain is much more aggriculturalised and urbanised than 1940's britain, there used to be 'real' woodlands instead or neatly planted rows of non-indigenous pine, all those of us that have flown over britain have never flown through a space/time warp and seen it in the 40's, I think the COD terrain is fine as it is and come the release of an SDK some clever mods can make Kent look however they like.

[Friendly_flyer]

Quite, but the question is how the landscape would differ. From literature, I would expect the landscape to be more small scale: Smaller fields, smaller roads, smaller farms (and more of them). The woodlots would probably have been larger and/or more numerous, and the suburbs would be much, much smaller than present, owing to smaller total population.

The hedgerows (if I remember this correctly) would have been more common than today.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Friendly_flyer

Quite, but the question is how the landscape would differ. From literature, I would expect the landscape to be more small scale: Smaller fields, smaller roads, smaller farms (and more of them). The woodlots would probably have been larger and/or more numerous, and the suburbs would be much, much smaller than present, owing to smaller total population.

The hedgerows (if I remember this correctly) would have been more common than today.

Can you think of any good reasons why an arcade game with a tiny map would be able to include more trees and smaller fields than sim with a very large map?

[RocketDog]

Maybe they use a better method of drawing trees? You know, like RoF does.