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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-02-2011, 03:55 AM
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Maddox Games and Gaijin Studio should unite. Gaijin make good graphical engine with advanced lighting and effects, they know how to optimize and what England looks like. Maddox can then do what it does best: cockpits, damage modeling and tiny pointless detail.
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Old 05-02-2011, 05:36 AM
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For me the look and feel of CloD is the best of all flight sims, except maybe DCS A-10 at higher elevations. Some individual sims do individual details better, like RoF's clouds but not the complete package.

I agree that WoP looks like it has a puke-filter turned on. It's also too contrasty and has an annoyingly overdone vignetting effect.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:01 AM
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I agree that WoP looks like it has a puke-filter turned on. It's also too contrasty and has an annoyingly overdone vignetting effect.
If you click on the Advanced settings, you can actually switch the vignette off. Also, if you have a couple of minutes to spare, you can set a colur profile up for the game in your Graphics driver and tone the Green down, it's a users choice.

What I have found is that Gaijin do actively listen to their purchasers and, for a small studio, do try and add user suggestions to patches.

The FM was much complained about regarding the P-51, now, after patch 1.0.3.7 the aircraft handles way better and is far more accurate as are many of the others. Gaijin listen!

I'll restate "every sim has it's merits", I am currently finding that WoP Developers are actively doing their best to please the comsumers they have and include suggestions from their forums.

I find (for now) Cliffs of Dover suggestions aren't about improving the software to add more content, for instance the lack of ships, they are about fixing the current 'Gold' software so it can be released officially in America in a 'fit-for-purpose' condition.

Yes that is a dig at CloD, but if I enjoy a game (WoP), why should I have someone else tell me I am wrong and shouldn't dare even consider anything other than the child of IL2:1946. Currently, CloD is exactly that, 'a Child', however it will grow (with support) into and Adult and be, I am sure, an exceptional product, for now however, I have all the graphical effects I want in WoP, draw distance without building popping up out of no-where,improved Flight-Models, New Camera positions being added for replays, HDR lighting and most of all......FUN!!!!

It also runs on a 'normal' computer and not a Beast (which I do own!).

I can't change your mind, as I don't even consider playing RoF, it's not that I don't think it's good, I just don't want to fly in a WW1 aircraft. Again, that'll be my choice, not yours?

If you take part in a game/simulation and after sitting there you come away from it having enjoyed yourself, why is it such a big issue for anyone to say "how dare you think that it is better than this game!"

WoP is great fun and enjoyable. IL2:1946 is still on my HD as a stock 4.10.1 and alos modded with HSFX 5.01 and they will always stay there.

I have CloD installed, but due to framerate, bug issues, I have only tried it 2-3 times since installing it. I just don't find it
A) Value for money and B) FUN!

I do know though, that once you guys have spent your time fixing the bugs for 1C it will be a great game (running on all 4-Cores, using 12GB of my Ram and also in SLI), but for now.....I'm having fun with WoP and HSFX 5.01.

But guys, enjoy what you fly, just don't tell me your choice is better than mine.....it never will be, and that is in my eyes and yours!

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Old 05-02-2011, 09:18 AM
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If you click on the Advanced settings, you can actually switch the vignette off. Also, if you have a couple of minutes to spare, you can set a colur profile up for the game in your Graphics driver and tone the Green down, it's a users choice.

What I have found is that Gaijin do actively listen to their purchasers and, for a small studio, do try and add user suggestions to patches.

The FM was much complained about regarding the P-51, now, after patch 1.0.3.7 the aircraft handles way better and is far more accurate as are many of the others. Gaijin listen!

I'll restate "every sim has it's merits", I am currently finding that WoP Developers are actively doing their best to please the comsumers they have and include suggestions from their forums.

I find (for now) Cliffs of Dover suggestions aren't about improving the software to add more content, for instance the lack of ships, they are about fixing the current 'Gold' software so it can be released officially in America in a 'fit-for-purpose' condition.

Yes that is a dig at CloD, but if I enjoy a game (WoP), why should I have someone else tell me I am wrong and shouldn't dare even consider anything other than the child of IL2:1946. Currently, CloD is exactly that, 'a Child', however it will grow (with support) into and Adult and be, I am sure, an exceptional product, for now however, I have all the graphical effects I want in WoP, draw distance without building popping up out of no-where,improved Flight-Models, New Camera positions being added for replays, HDR lighting and most of all......FUN!!!!

It also runs on a 'normal' computer and not a Beast (which I do own!).

I can't change your mind, as I don't even consider playing RoF, it's not that I don't think it's good, I just don't want to fly in a WW1 aircraft. Again, that'll be my choice, not yours?

If you take part in a game/simulation and after sitting there you come away from it having enjoyed yourself, why is it such a big issue for anyone to say "how dare you think that it is better than this game!"

WoP is great fun and enjoyable. IL2:1946 is still on my HD as a stock 4.10.1 and alos modded with HSFX 5.01 and they will always stay there.

I have CloD installed, but due to framerate, bug issues, I have only tried it 2-3 times since installing it. I just don't find it
A) Value for money and B) FUN!

I do know though, that once you guys have spent your time fixing the bugs for 1C it will be a great game (running on all 4-Cores, using 12GB of my Ram and also in SLI), but for now.....I'm having fun with WoP and HSFX 5.01.

But guys, enjoy what you fly, just don't tell me your choice is better than mine.....it never will be, and that is in my eyes and yours!

Cheers, MP

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Old 05-02-2011, 09:23 AM
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Nice videos MysticPuma WoP or CoD..matter of taste and sometimes fun to just throw brains in the bucket and blast away Give me smoothness of WoP to CoD and all is good!
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:55 AM
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:58 AM
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Nice videos indeed!
And an excellent balanced view of this thread..couldn't agree more with your sentiments MP.
I am also enjoying WOP and at the same time watching COD develop into what will be, I'm sure, an astounding title.
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:52 AM
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:09 AM
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Maddox Games and Gaijin Studio should unite. Gaijin make good graphical engine with advanced lighting and effects, they know how to optimize and what England looks like. Maddox can then do what it does best: cockpits, damage modeling and tiny pointless detail.
They used the IL2 engine that was developed by Maddox games, so where do you stand now. These lovely posts you are all making against Maddox games looking shit are ridiculous, I hope you have the decency and maturity to say you were wrong when they sort this out.
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:23 AM
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They used the IL2 engine that was developed by Maddox games, so where do you stand now. These lovely posts you are all making against Maddox games looking shit are ridiculous, I hope you have the decency and maturity to say you were wrong when they sort this out.
Purley for the sake of correctness... Gaijin made their own engine. They only used IL-2's FM / DM data (well, some of it!).
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