BF109 - Can't we just have the gunsight in the middle?

[Redroach]

besides that, stereoscopic vision is very poor in a night vision device.

[Lixma]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Comparing a ww2 gunsight to that of a modern helicopter whose operator has to be trained to use the sight like you are showing it very clever!!!

I think this post should win.

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

I could be wrong but revi is a shortened reflex vision? (whatever that was in german)

Correct. REVI is Reflexvisier and the EZ/REVI (gyro sights) were Einheitszielvorrichtung Reflexvisier. Askania was probably the main producer, although Zeiss was made quite a few also.

[Buzpilot]

This is not possible, even with two eyes.
Reading this thread (and this forum, and others) makes me think about that guy that was hypnotized to think Porche 911 was faster than any other car (Top gear), you guys are hilarious

Would be better to just make it possible to save a default view for each plane, userfriendly is a key here.
And Shift F1, loosening the straps should not restrict view at all, not realistic.

I would even like it to be possible to save config on each plane.
Using a throttle quadrant, and have to reprogram axis from water to oil radiators each time when changing between some planes is very unpractical

[Lixma]

Originally Posted by Buzpilot

This is not possible, even with two eyes.

You heard it here first.

Stereoscopic vision is impossible. Even with two eyes.

Lixma, mh. Perhaps we're talking about two slightly different things. I do understand that even if only one eye sees an image the other is made to believe that it also sees this image. This I can understand. Provided they see the SAME image.

What I find hard to believe is that according to your images the brain is capable to add stuff. In the case of the 109 it would be the other half of the circle, something the right eye would not see as it only sees the left half of the circle.
Also the Apache Hud view is strange. As depicted the brain is obviously capable to make the eye without hud see the numbers whereas the eye with the visor doesn't.

[b101uk]

Originally Posted by EvilJoven

Why isn't this post getting more love? The 109 gunsight lined up with the gunners right eye and stereoscopic sight compensated for the rest. This really is what a 109 gun sight should display if this SIMULATION is SIMULATING a pilot with TWO EYES.

because the reflector glass is wider than 3" (~75mm) thus its centre is >1.5" (>37.5mm) from its left edge.

the reflector glass is ~25% of the front window width and how wide is a human body with arms that need to move relative to the canopy A pillars vs. canopy B pillars vs. the inner walls of the cockpit.



If the reflector glass is 3" (~75mm) wide how wide dose that make the cockpit for a human to sit in!

[Buzpilot]

Originally Posted by Lixma

You heard it here first.

Stereoscopic vision is impossible. Even with two eyes.

Stereoscopic vision don't put something inside the sight, to the front window, unless you have your left eye to right of your right eye?

[recoilfx]

Originally Posted by Lixma

Okay try this....

Here's an Apache driver's Helmet Mounted Sight (HMS). It projects the HUD and other stuff into one eye only.



And yet the Apache drivers have two eyes...binocular vision.

So what does the Apache pilot see when he's flying around?

Is it this....?



Or is it this.....?




And so with the Revi.

The Revi is installed on the 109 to project its reticle onto one eye only (the right one in our case).

And yet Luftwaffe pilots has two eyes....binocular vision.

So what would our Luftwaffe pilot have seen while flying around?

Something like this...?




Or this.....?

I agree with your post, but you have left out a very important aspect in your 109 illustration, in order to actually 'see' the whole circle, you'd have to move your head a lot closer to the revi (so the right eye actually see the whole circle), in other words, you'd have to use Shift-F1 again.

Stereoscopic vision only applies to things in close range. That's why when you look into the vista of Grand Canyon, the whole view looks so flat and picture like.

Notice also how close the HMD is to the pilot's head.

Originally Posted by Buzpilot

Stereoscopic vision don't put something inside the sight, to the front window, unless you have your left eye to right of your right eye?

Someone needs to go back time and tell the Luftwaffe that their sighting system is flawed! They need to know this! Also I'm going to send an email to the department of defense to let them know that their Apache pilots are using a useless aiming device.