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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-24-2011, 09:53 AM
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That's exactly it though - not everything has to please the masses. But something does. These guys need an accurate WW2 flight sim that is a commercial success to expand, not just an accurate WW2 flight sim.



Luthier specifically talks about making it easier to play with a keyboard in the vid (if the translation is correct...) The object seems to be to get people interested enough to go the next step. I bet a lot, but obviously not enough from Luthier's comment, did this with IL-2 initially.
By keypads he meant at unrealistic settings you won't need so many levers and sliders to control the engine, or at least that's how I interpreted it!
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:57 AM
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By keypads he meant at unrealistic settings you won't need so many levers and sliders to control the engine, or at least that's how I interpreted it!
Must admit it would be good if he commented on this. The context at 10.30 seems to be about newbs but I don't know for sure. Wish I spoke Russian, could have the game already!
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:02 AM
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Must admit it would be good if he commented on this. The context at 10.30 seems to be about newbs but I don't know for sure. Wish I spoke Russian, could have the game already!
Luthier said that the game is more friendly for newbies, especially for the ones with keyboards, on low realism settings it's possible to fly with only 4 buttons.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:11 AM
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Luthier said that the game is more friendly for newbies, especially for the ones with keyboards, on low realism settings it's possible to fly with only 4 buttons.
WTF this is not what I wanted to hear... My past experience with "easing the new comers" has led to a deprecition in complexity that the other end of the spectrum are crying out for.

I know it's a much smaller group at that end but for the no realism guys it will be flash in pot for a majority, usually they are waiting for the next Cod to come out... 1C will receive some money from them buying clod but very few will go on to purchase the next installation..

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Old 03-24-2011, 10:49 AM
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WTF this is not what I wanted to hear... My past experience with "easing the new comers" has led to a deprecition in complexity that the other end of the spectrum are crying out for.

I know it's a much smaller group at that end but for the no realism guys it will be flash in pot for a majority, usually they are waiting for the next Cod to come out... 1C will receive some money from them buying clod but very few will go on to purchase the next installation..
From what I've seen CoD can be very realistic with all features enabled, definitely not less then original IL-2.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:57 AM
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Maybe I missed the boat on this one.Online there are already too many point wh*res,shoulder shooters and kill stealers.

I do not think rewarding such behavior is a good thing.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:11 AM
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Aim for your market and make best possible product to your customers. You just can't please everyone, never, period.
Good point but your target market must include newcomers or your customer base will only diminish. Most of those newcomers are not going to want fullreal only immediately, hence the seeming interest in making the game easier to play if required.


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Maybe I missed the boat on this one.Online there are already too many point wh*res,shoulder shooters and kill stealers.

I do not think rewarding such behavior is a good thing.
I don't understand the point. Are you saying that more 'gamey' settings would encourage this? I certainly agree, if so. Maybe they would be more interested in the alternative 'gamey' servers than fullreal, though.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:12 AM
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One of the most miserable time I've had was on line just after the stats had been reset for the month. I had (by pure luck ) managed to get my kill/ deaths up to 4/0! I only needed one more kill to become an Ace!

It took me two days of continually looking over my shoulder, trying picking my moment to get that last kill to make myself ace. I was a complete bundle of nerves, Finally I found my victim! I set myself up perfectly and dove in for the attack!

Just at that time my wife came into the room threw her arms around me and gave me a big pashy kiss on the face and told me it was time for dinner!

I over shot and became disorientated and before I could disenguage myself from my wifes embrace, I'd had been riddled with bullets and cannon shells and my aircraft spiraled down in a flames!

I haven't taken too much note of winning streaks since then!
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:04 AM
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The game developer must do everything in its power to make this game as hard as possible to make sure as few people as possible will even bother with it.

That way we can all have that "select few" club we all so much yearn for.

The plus side of that is, of course, that we will have to wait 12-16 months for each update/addon due to money constraints.

They sould also make sure that everyone have to play with the same settings on every single server available. Goes without saying it has to be full real settings, naturally.

Futher more u should have to register your product number for your Track ir5 and Saitek rudder pedals or the game wont start.

Anyone who cant bother with FR isn't cut out for this and should so* off.

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Old 03-24-2011, 11:14 AM
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The game developer must do everything in its power to make this game as hard as possible to make sure as few people as possible will even bother with it.

That way we can all have that "select few" club we all so much yearn for.

The plus side of that is, of course, that we will have to wait 12-16 months for each update/addon due to money constraints.

They sould also make sure that everyone have to play with the same settings on every single server available. Goes without saying it has to be full real settings, naturally.

Futher more u should have to register your product number for your Track ir5 and Saitek rudder pedals or the game wont start.

Anyone who cant bother with FR isn't cut out for this and should pi** off.
lol, that's the spirit! Captured it perfectly!
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