Could 6-DoF ever be available in 4.2 if players could forgive small Graphics issues

[Gunshi091]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

+1

+2

I fly ULM every sunday with my uncle except when wheather is bad , we are always strapped with the cross shaped belt , and even though you can look around you , it's quite difficult to look on your 6 oclock for prolonged period without hurting your neck when you are manoeuvering , your back is more or less stuck to the seat and there is no way to have the kind of freedom of view you have with 6dof unless you untie your belt or loosen it .

now that's only a ridiculously light and very slow plane compared to the 1000hp monsters we get to fly in the sim , i can easily guess that with a WWII pilot suit + oxygen mask/helmet/googles + stress/fatigue+ much tighter strapping +much faster plane pulling lot of G's = difficult to look behind you during manoeuvers or combat , even more difficult to get the kind of view angles you get with 6dof

If you implement 6DOF in IL-2 , maybe a suggestion would be to enable it ONLY when the pilot untie his belt/straps , fly level at low speed without pulling G's ...

But to achieve that , you'd need to simulate the strappings (model it , assign key for untie/tie belt ) so that cockpit view when unstrapped and strapped is different , and make penalties for a pilot who is fighting unstrapped (like for instance , injury or added fatigue or loss of consciousness ) .

So I'm not against 6DOF , but i think it should be implemented in conjunction with the belt/strappings , otherwise it would feel like you are a terminator un-strapped flying his plane in a bubble immune to gravity .

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by Gunshi091

But to achieve that , you'd need to simulate the strappings (model it , assign key for untie/tie belt ) so that cockpit view when unstrapped and strapped is different , and make penalties for a pilot who is fighting unstrapped (like for instance , injury or added fatigue or loss of consciousness ) .

Thats not a bad idea!
Not sure if its technically possible and the kind of penalty, if you do maneuvres without fastened strapping is also a very unsure question, but definitly a step in the right direction.

BTW: Does anyone know, if it was possible for the pilot to loosen seatbelts after he ones fastened them? Or was it as easy to do it and vice versa as a push onto a keyboard?

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Thats not a bad idea!
Not sure if its technically possible and the kind of penalty, if you do maneuvres without fastened strapping is also a very unsure question, but definitly a step in the right direction.

BTW: Does anyone know, if it was possible for the pilot to loosen seatbelts after he ones fastened them? Or was it as easy to do it and vice versa as a push onto a keyboard?

The Sutton Harness allowed the pilot to release himself and lean forwards to make panel adjustments.

http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/the-...-spitfire.html

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Thanks for the link!

[SEE]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Thats not a bad idea!
Not sure if its technically possible and the kind of penalty, if you do maneuvres without fastened strapping is also a very unsure question, but definitly a step in the right direction.

Would that idea include players in Cockpit view using POV hatswitches to also have restrictions on Views, zoom, etc, depending on wether they were strapped in or not?

[Sven]

Originally Posted by SEE

Would that idea include players in Cockpit view using POV hatswitches to also have restrictions on Views, zoom, etc, depending on wether they were strapped in or not?

zooming in and moving your head to the gunsight are 2 different things in IL2.
the hatswitch player will not have restrictions since he cannot move anyway, what restrictions did you have in mind?

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by JAMF

Well... with webcam head tracking, this immersive enjoyment is a small "price of 2 pizza" investment away.

Just a point that a lot of people ignore:

- TIR solutions are just webcams without IR filter, like a Wiimote...

It's up to everybody decide if will pay the price of 2 pizza for a webcam or the cost of a full service in the best restaurant of Rome...

[Kubiszko]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Thats not a bad idea!
Not sure if its technically possible and the kind of penalty, if you do maneuvres without fastened strapping is also a very unsure question, but definitly a step in the right direction.

BTW: Does anyone know, if it was possible for the pilot to loosen seatbelts after he ones fastened them? Or was it as easy to do it and vice versa as a push onto a keyboard?

I hope that someone finally do the P-47 cockpit.There it was a lot of place.
Armor plate should be very similar like in FW.Same Tempest

[trashcanman]

Originally Posted by Fenrir

The only joke here is your attitude. Take a hike loser.

Thank you for your appreciation of the right to free speech ..
I am expressing my opinion and supporting it with facts.
I am sorry you do not like that.

Maybe you are the one in need of a long walk?

[trashcanman]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

It seems your personal issues are far beyond the scope of this thread, or perhaps even this forum. I'm curious though, could you explain for me the significance of the "Team Blueadalos" phrase. You use it as if it's some triumph of rapier-like wit and an overpowering intellectual smackdown, so I'm hoping you can explain.

No, I am not using the phrase in the way that you have described and nor would I take such a patronising presumptive attitude to other peoples opinions.

However that seems to be a common attitude on this forum

TD, in my opinion (and where I live we are still allowed to have those (England btw)) is modding IL-2 to an agenda driven by those players that only fly Blue \ LW.

Again ...my OPINION ... is that ok?