Friday 2011-02-04 Dev. update and Discussion

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by klem

You don't get off that easily

How does the Spitfire landing compare with IL-2 please?

Real Spits do tend to bounce a bit unless greased in. I've managed to land without bouncing many times but you've got to make sure your speed is close to a stall at the end of the flare. Any excess speed will get you airborn again.

Personally I think IL2 provides a very realistic touch down experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_3YuwerLCQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TOTF9rdX2Y

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by Sutts

Real Spits do tend to bounce a bit unless greased in. I've managed to land without bouncing many times but you've got to make sure your speed is close to a stall at the end of the flare. Any excess speed will get you airborn again.

Personally I think IL2 provides a very realistic touch down experience.

Ah then you are familiar on a certain quote from that 1969 "Battle of Britain" movie, on a nice basket ball landing where the other pilots say to each other
"You can teach...*monkeys* to fly better than that! "

[Sturm_Williger]

Originally Posted by Sutts

Real Spits do tend to bounce a bit unless greased in. I've managed to land without bouncing many times but you've got to make sure your speed is close to a stall at the end of the flare. Any excess speed will get you airborn again.

Personally I think IL2 provides a very realistic touch down experience.

It's not the bounce on landing that is a real problem when you're landing on non-airfield, it's the way the tailwheel will bounce madly on touching the ground, practically guaranteeing to dig your nose in
Heavier aircraft don't seem to have such a "bouncy" tail - I can land a 110 for example fairly easily on rough terrain, but single engines, almost never.
The main gear seems fine, but the tailwheel seems to have a jack-in-the-box built in.

[F19_Klunk]

Originally Posted by Sturm_Williger

It's not the bounce on landing that is a real problem when you're landing on non-airfield, it's the way the tailwheel will bounce madly on touching the ground, practically guaranteeing to dig your nose in
Heavier aircraft don't seem to have such a "bouncy" tail - I can land a 110 for example fairly easily on rough terrain, but single engines, almost never.
The main gear seems fine, but the tailwheel seems to have a jack-in-the-box built in.

I make perfect 3-point landnings every time in every tailwheeled aircraft in Il2...
no noseovers..

practice makes excellence

[fireflyerz]

Originally Posted by Sutts

Real Spits do tend to bounce a bit unless greased in. I've managed to land without bouncing many times but you've got to make sure your speed is close to a stall at the end of the flare. Any excess speed will get you airborn again.

Personally I think IL2 provides a very realistic touch down experience.

Interesting , do you fly one ?

[HFC_Dolphin]

Nice to know that cheats will be enabled from day 1

Not everyone has to understand this

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by HFC_Dolphin

Nice to know that cheats will be enabled from day 1

Not everyone has to understand this

Define "cheats".

[klem]

Originally Posted by Sutts

Real Spits do tend to bounce a bit unless greased in. I've managed to land without bouncing many times but you've got to make sure your speed is close to a stall at the end of the flare. Any excess speed will get you airborn again.

Personally I think IL2 provides a very realistic touch down experience.

Yes Sutts, I understand it will skip on occasions like that but in IL-2 if you put one wheel down a fraction before the other you are bounced into a sideways lurch that repeats itself in alternate directions until the inevitable pile-up.

I have a friend who regularly flew in the back of a two seat spitfire (you can probably guess which one) and maintained it at the airshows for the owner. I asked him about this. He confirmed that bounces/skips do indeed happen (like your video clip) and I have seen enough of them close up at airshows. When I asked him about one wheel touching before the other he said it would bounce around a little but no, it didn't lurch around but settled fairly quickly.

At the local 2007 airshow a Hurricane crashed during the mock-dogfight. One or two of the landings that followed, just thirty yards in front of me, were a little more shaky than usual but none lurched around like we see in IL-2.