Friday 2011-02-04 Dev. update and Discussion

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Come on Luthier, you know what Im asking for here, a short video taken on one of your better PC's in the office

What if Lu's PC is the best one they have in the office?
There must be better ones? Sure, but maybe the have Quadras installed - great Gpu, but worthless for gaming.

And the fact they don't really have a business relation to either of the two Gpu manufactures makes it impossible for him to recommend one card over the other.
So no, you will not get the info you're craving for.

Originally Posted by swiss

What if Lu's PC is the best one they have in the office?
There must be better ones? Sure, but maybe the have Quadras installed - great Gpu, but worthless for gaming.

And the fact they don't really have a business relation to either of the two Gpu manufactures makes it impossible for him to recommend one card over the other.
So no, you will not get the info you're craving for.

Swiss your out of touch here go back and read all the thread before making any comments, in case you have not got time I will quickly refresh for you, all that I/we want to see is a video (shot in game) for 3 mins of a fighter attacking a bomber over land on a high end PC, Luthier as already told us that flying over a town or city/airfield on his mid range PC with detail turned up it is not possible to fly because the PC grinds to a halt. What I/we want to know is does it do the same on a high end PC, not a difficult question and something that can be done in 2 mins. Luthier has already told us that they do have high end PC's in the office but they cannot get access to them because they are being used for work, helpfully I have suggested nipping on one when a guy goes home or uses the toilet or has a dinner break, even if Luthier doesn't video the results I am happy to take his word that the high end PC handles the graphics fine.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Swiss your out of touch here go back and read all the thread before making any comments, in case you have not got time I will quickly refresh for you, all that I/we want to see is a video (shot in game) for 3 mins of a fighter attacking a bomber over land on a high end PC, Luthier as already told us that flying over a town or city/airfield on his mid range PC with detail turned up it is not possible to fly because the PC grinds to a halt. What I/we want to know is does it do the same on a high end PC, not a difficult question and something that can be done in 2 mins. Luthier has already told us that they do have high end PC's in the office but they cannot get access to them because they are being used for work, helpfully I have suggested nipping on one when a guy goes home or uses the toilet or as a dinner break, even if Luthier doesn't video the reulsts I am happy to take his word that the high end PC handles the graphics fine.

My turn to refresh:

Where has Luthier ever mentioned there is a better(gamer) PC available?
Quadra GPUs are several thousand dollar a piece(I consider that high-end) - but they are not "for human consumption".

At this point I am pretty sure there are no 480s or 5970s in that office.

Originally Posted by swiss

My turn to refresh:

Where has Luthier ever mentioned there is a better(gamer) PC available?
Quadra GPUs are several thousand dollar a piece(I consider that high-end) - but they are not "for human consumption".

At this point I am pretty sure there are no 480s or 5970s in that office.

he said it here -

Originally Posted by luthier

We have top-notch machines where they are most needed, with the programmers. I have a mid-range or probably even a low-end machine by today's standards myself, which is very helpful in ensuring a lot of you guys get decent performance out of the game! If everyone had a blazing fast PC, who would worry about the framerate?

We've just finished a major round of optimizations last week that drastically improved framerate compared to the Igromir build. We couldn't have done it if everyone at the office ran it at 80 fps to begin with.

And since I take the majority of screenshots for the updates, you guys are stuck with what I have! In order to take screenshots on other machines, I'd have to bump off a programmer, and I'm sure we can all agree it wouldn't be good for the project. Most of them run weird versions of the game unfit for human consumption anyway.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

he said it here -

Luthier's said a lot things in the past, so what.
Live with it - be happy what you get.
Also:
There are enough users here with incredible machines, once CoD is out they will all post their results(guaranteed) here.
Once you have those results, you can decide which card is best for you.

Huge f***ing deal if you can't play CoD with maxed out everything from day one, huh?

and what i posted earlier: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=281

Originally Posted by swiss

Luthier's said a lot things in the past, so what.
Live with it - be happy what you get.
Also:
There are enough users here with incredible machines, once CoD is out they will all post their results(guaranteed) here.
Once you have those results, you can decide which card is best for you.

Huge f***ing deal if you can't play CoD with maxed out everything from day one, huh?

and what i posted earlier: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=281

sigh **** I dont want to know what card is best for me, please remove your blinkers your heading down a tunnel.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

sigh **** I dont want to know what card is best for me, please remove your blinkers your heading down a tunnel.

Ok, you demand a maxed out out video, and you can resist asking which card it was?
That would be pointless, all you get is eyecandy but you don't know how to reproduce it.




Edit: Plus you're missing one point:

Originally Posted by luthier

If I had a high-end PC, the recommended specs we've released a while ago would have been the minimum specs.

I'm using a mid-range PC for a very specific reason.

You have to understand that my job is to make a good game. It is NOT to market and advertise it. We're a tiny developer working on a shoestring budget. If I have to stop working for a day each week to make videos, we will end up with a kick-ass marketing campaign for a crappy game. I'd rather have it the other way around.

Basically that means they made a game for mid to lower highend PCs.
In case you own a killer machine you'll be rewarded with some additional eyecandy and a better fps.
I don't think you can expect a whole different game or graphics just because you throw in a $600 card.

In the future minspecs will raise dramatically, but we have already seen this happen with il2.

At least, that's they way I understood luthier.

[kancerosik]

I see that the NEW CoD is not optimiced for panoramical screens. I see the cockpit images as on my 16:9 flying Il2 1946.

I was waiting to see a video where the lateral view is incremented not a video with that "cuts" up and down screen

Pd: hope I'm wrong, what do u think?

So the object density is set by the host then?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by kancerosik

I see that the NEW CoD is not optimiced for panoramical screens. I see the cockpit images as on my 16:9 flying Il2 1946.

I was waiting to see a video where the lateral view is incremented not a video with that "cuts" up and down screen

Pd: hope I'm wrong, what do u think?

Actually, I have no idea what you're talking about.
But hen again that could be just me.