some "official" TD Hs129 rpm recommendations ?

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Fafnir_6

Are those pictures of the ZFR 3 A from a wartime manual?? If so, I think they constitute evidence that the telescopic gunsight was installed on the Hs129B-3. Perhaps DT would consider adding it as an option for the Hs129B-3 in a future patch??

The only evidence (that I've seen) of the ZFR's use in combat is from Franz Oswald of 13.(Pz)/SG 9 who noted "that the ZFR 3B telescopic gunsight made target acquisition difficult." (Quote taken from Martin Pegg's Hs 129 book).

How that applies to the entire production run of the B-3, I don't know.

[Azimech]

Nice document on the engine btw. Funny thing I have less problems reading technical german than normal german. If someone wants it translated, I could work together with a native speaker (in english).

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

The only evidence (that I've seen) of the ZFR's use in combat is from Franz Oswald of 13.(Pz)/SG 9 who noted "that the ZFR 3B telescopic gunsight made target acquisition difficult." (Quote taken from Martin Pegg's Hs 129 book).

How that applies to the entire production run of the B-3, I don't know.

Thats the very same only evidence of the ZFR, that we had (you know, we used your collection). Manuals might be somewhat misleading, as they were produced prior to the delivering of planes to the flight groups. So the reference about this installation is veeeery weak and was regarded as not (yet) worth the effort. Furthermore, it wouldn't be possible to simulate a zoomed periscope view outside the canopy (the pilot couldn't press his eye on it). It would be somehow modeled wrong anyway.

The modeling of the ZFR was already begun, so if there eventually come up new references (I doubt it), I think, it would be a nice small addition.

[Fafnir_6]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Thats the very same only evidence of the ZFR, that we had (you know, we used your collection). Manuals might be somewhat misleading, as they were produced prior to the delivering of planes to the flight groups. So the reference about this installation is veeeery weak and was regarded as not (yet) worth the effort. Furthermore, it wouldn't be possible to simulate a zoomed periscope view outside the canopy (the pilot couldn't press his eye on it). It would be somehow modeled wrong anyway.

The modeling of the ZFR was already begun, so if there eventually come up new references (I doubt it), I think, it would be a nice small addition.

Cool. Thanks for the responses, guys. As far as implementation goes, would it not be possible to use a variant of the telescope view in the Ki.43, for example, to supplement the reflector sight using either Shift+F1 or C? This is bordering on Luft '46, however, so I understand if DT members don't wish to spend time on it.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Thats the very same only evidence of the ZFR, that we had (you know, we used your collection). Manuals might be somewhat misleading, as they were produced prior to the delivering of planes to the flight groups. So the reference about this installation is veeeery weak and was regarded as not (yet) worth the effort.

Yep, and to add to that, the only two known photos of an operational B-3 show it fitted with the standard B-2 gun sight.

Probably what happened is that the very, very first aircraft had the ZFR fitted, and the later ones used the standard B-2 sight. With only 25 planes produced and a service life of ~6 months, though, the true reality will probably never be known.