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JG53Frankyboy 01-11-2011 06:55 PM

some "official" TD Hs129 rpm recommendations ?
 
just because there is not the 'typical' 80% pitch available in the Hs129. Are there any "official" TD rpm recommendations in with range the engine works best or is at least not overstressed ?

Romanator21 01-11-2011 08:01 PM

Hi, I've been having the same questions :)

This site has some manuals, but you have to register to see them.

They appear to be only for gunnery and bombing. I can't find anything that looks like a table of engine management, or something similar.

However, they do have lots of great pictures, and are worth a look.

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ferences/3.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ferences/2.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ferences/1.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...erences/13.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...erences/12.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...erences/11.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ferences/7.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...erences/10.jpg

Here's some text and a table on what appears to be a bombing guide. However, I can't read a word of this font :)

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ferences/4.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ferences/5.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ferences/6.jpg

Romanator21 01-11-2011 08:29 PM

Here it is, a manual on the Gnome-Rhone engine in the Hs-129 B :grin:

http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/index-englisch.htm

Search for Gnome-Rhone on the right, and the document should be the first result.

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...erences/14.jpg

take-off, combat, max continuous, cruise? Google translate doesn't know some of these words :)

Azimech 01-11-2011 08:53 PM

Startleistung = Take Off
Steig- und Kampfflugleistung = Climb and Combat Power
Höchstzulässige Dauerleistung = Max Continious Power
Höchstsparleistung = Economy Cruise

dauernd = continious
Ladedruck = manifold pressure
Drehzahl = RPM
PS= horsepower

Romanator21 01-11-2011 11:01 PM

Thanks for the translation :grin:

Unfortunately, there's a problem with the CEM in Il-2 with this plane. It's impossible to match the parameters given in this table. For instance, reducing power to 1.1 ATA makes it impossible to have RPMs above 2000. 2750 is the max RPMs available with full power and WEP!

JG53Frankyboy 01-11-2011 11:34 PM

i personally dont expecting that reallive datas are working with any plane in game.............means that you can fly a plane with a real live handbook and gets the estimated performance.

therefor i asked TD, at least one person should know wich limits he programmed in the IL2's Hs129.

JG53Frankyboy 01-11-2011 11:48 PM

:(
so far i always kept the rpm as 2500 as max with 80% throtte to keep the engine in good condition.

but it seems this engine is just one more of this "long runners" in game. open the coolingflaps, give 110% throttle and the pitch at max....i had the engine running for over 40minutes now in a short test.......................... :(

MadBlaster 01-12-2011 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romanator21 (Post 211193)
Thanks for the translation :grin:

Unfortunately, there's a problem with the CEM in Il-2 with this plane. It's impossible to match the parameters given in this table. For instance, reducing power to 1.1 ATA makes it impossible to have RPMs above 2000. 2750 is the max RPMs available with full power and WEP!

If you toggle the auto prop pitch, you will have access to the higher rpms (>2750) with your prop pitch keys.

Fafnir_6 01-12-2011 12:56 AM

Are those pictures of the ZFR 3 A from a wartime manual?? If so, I think they constitute evidence that the telescopic gunsight was installed on the Hs129B-3. Perhaps DT would consider adding it as an option for the Hs129B-3 in a future patch??

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

LukeFF 01-12-2011 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fafnir_6 (Post 211218)
Are those pictures of the ZFR 3 A from a wartime manual?? If so, I think they constitute evidence that the telescopic gunsight was installed on the Hs129B-3. Perhaps DT would consider adding it as an option for the Hs129B-3 in a future patch??

The only evidence (that I've seen) of the ZFR's use in combat is from Franz Oswald of 13.(Pz)/SG 9 who noted "that the ZFR 3B telescopic gunsight made target acquisition difficult." (Quote taken from Martin Pegg's Hs 129 book).

How that applies to the entire production run of the B-3, I don't know.


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