More severe moderation in update threads?

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

But what is exactly what are you looking for to people to say in Updates threads???

There are a lot of stupid question in those threads, but there are lot of good ones too, so moderators can't keep deleting or warning people just cause some
of the senior members doesn't like their questions.

Have you ever realized that the main problems in forum or chats is the lack of
expresion in the letters, you can try to say something in a funny way but can
be missunderstood by other and end up in something bad.

I suffer that in one of the updates talking about the effects, i sated that were wrong and doesn't look right and then fans flame me for that, then i don't remember who, but one from oleg team said that they hated those effects more than anybody else and were just wip. the main point in this
is in an update thread all the forum users will not think the same and you
should not filter that, let everybody express them selves and then take
what it worth for you.

I remember another time that somebody asked when was the first time
that this sim was anounced, i answered the question, and i recive a PM from
nearmiss that answering that i was insulting oleg.

Lads please let the fellas out there really say what they really think, nice or
not it will help to improve the project, developer doesn't need lamers fro their
good, need compliments and complains.

Regards

Potenz.

The problem with the up-date thread as I see it, is that a question/complaint to Oleg, becomes a debate between members. I would like to see questions/complaints (and questions/complaints only) offered to Oleg, if he answer fine, if not then he doesn't want to answer. No need for other members to try and answer for him, or to criticize the question...in short only questions/complaints should be posted, with no follow up by other members (I have been guilty of this), and that includes "thanks for answering Oleg", which are not needed, and only add to the clutter.

[Blackdog_kt]

Actually i'm going to agree with you guys, it seems we're getting somewhere.

Potenz makes some good points, as well as Yellopaw and Jimko. Ironically enough, in the end it seems it's our inability to not feed the trolls that starts the downward spiral of "forum dueling".

Reminds me of something i read by a poster in SimHQ once: "The forum is a place where real-time virtual pilots come to play turn-based verbal combat"

[BP_Tailspin]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Have you tried to wade through some of the crap people post week after week, in an effort to find meaningful discussion about the topic at hand? It's ridiculous.

One mans “crap” is another mans “meaningful discussion” …

Originally Posted by LukeFF

And no, it's not "free-speaking." It's a privately-run board. "Free speech" doesn't apply here.

I think this is for Oleg to decide.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by BP_Tailspin

One mans “crap” is another mans “meaningful discussion” …

I'm talking about the off-topic discussions, such as the current one about Britain's treatment of Poland. Nothing wrong with talking about that, of course, but it has no relevance to the topic at hand.

I think this is for Oleg to decide.

He has to wade through all of that as well. Show the man some respect by staying on topic.

[leggit]

well seems this thread has turned into a lot of chaff..i'm done with it.

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

I'm talking about the off-topic discussions, such as the current one about Britain's treatment of Poland. Nothing wrong with talking about that, of course, but it has no relevance to the topic at hand.

I'm one of the guilty parties of that discussion. Unfortunately my standards drop to that of the thread, I'd rather mods just removed all our off topic chat (in update threads), and we'd all get the message. Unfortunately I give in to the 'if you can't beat them, join them' attitude. If there's a conversation I'd like to join in on, it's tough to say 'hey everyone, come with me to chat about this elesewhere' (I did try it with one topic), and easy just to join in.

[Blackdog_kt]

That's exactly what i would favor as well. Bans should be reserved for offences like repeat personal attacks and so on, it's too harsh for off topic remarks.

Best thing to do would be to cut the off topic posts from the update thread and move them to a separate one, opened by a moderator. Since moderators can't waste their time categorizing each off-topic discussion in its own thread but would lump everything in the same basket, we would be left with a thread that's hard to follow for our side-tracked musings. This would gradually force us to open up separate threads of our own whenever we wanted to go on a tangent.

Sad but true, causing a minor inconvenience to upset the modus operandi is the most effective means to make people drift to a different one

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Best thing to do would be to cut the off topic posts from the update thread and move them to a separate one, opened by a moderator. Since moderators can't waste their time categorizing each off-topic discussion in its own thread but would lump everything in the same basket

I'd rather the moderators didn't even waste that much time. Just remove our posts, no need to paste elsewhere.