UBI drops DRM (constant connection) for SH5.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

I'd rather like a different publisher for SoW instead.

That is debatable. No intent of defending UBI, but they do have the means to distribute and promote SOW on a large scale in the world, which could mean higher selling and revenue for 1C than a small distributor, like for example A2A.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

I'd rather like a different publisher for SoW instead.

Amen to that.

Originally Posted by swiss

I was joking.
Seriously, I really don't think any member in here could resist buying SOW, with or without drm - It's a must have.

I disagree. There is only so much 'crap' that legit users can take. If SoW follows SH5's or RoF's path it will undoubtedly hurt their sales. I for one won't purchase if it ships with a DRM similar or worse than what SH5 has. I do understand that there has to be some kind of copy protection - what DCS team is doing with A-10C (improved Starforce with renewable activations over certain time period) would suite me just fine, Steam as well if it features an offline mode.

In other words - the only thing that would stop me from buying the game is another stupid DRM.

Again, I must point to the excellent article at SimHQ:

How to Torpedo Yourself Without Even Trying

[Blackdog_kt]

I didn't expect this to happen. I knew they decided to start shipping their games with Steam in place of Uplay after the initial uproar, but i didn't expect them to convert the titles originally released with Uplay (Assasin's Creed 2, SH5 and Settlers 7 i think they were), especially a niche product like SH5.

On the other hand, the SH series might not be a blockbuster but it sells steadily for a long time, so maybe that was a factor in their effort to increase sales.

Edit: After skimming through that thread on subsim it appears that they didn't drop it. You still need to authenticate online when you start the game, you just won't be kicked from the game if your connection drops mid-patrol. It's just like the RoF model, where they let you fly single missions and scripted campaigns but not dynamic ones unless you are connected.

[swiss]

anyone got sales numbers of SH5?

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by swiss

anyone got sales numbers of SH5?

Some figures for early versions here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=161973


SH5 was dead in the water for a number of reasons not just the DRM ...

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Hunter-...ews/B002PAIPQO

Regardless of the reasons, a rule of thumb for software sales is no amount of patching and fixing will ever compensate for a dodgy release, whether the problem is bugs or a poorly thought out DRM.

RoF is a good example. By the time they changed the DRM to something more acceptable and add a few more planes to the far too limited initial set. the excitement about the game had passed.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Edit: After skimming through that thread on subsim it appears that they didn't drop it. You still need to authenticate online when you start the game, you just won't be kicked from the game if your connection drops mid-patrol. It's just like the RoF model, where they let you fly single missions and scripted campaigns but not dynamic ones unless you are connected.

They dropped it in the sense that you don't have to be connected to play, as it was before -- not just because of a connection drop. You can now play not being connected, and yes, that includes the dynamic campaign. Can't really see the comparison to ROF.

[Blackdog_kt]

The similarity is that even though the details and technicalities differ, you still need at least one authentication per gaming session to be able to play the dynamic campaign.

In layman's terms, if your internet drops before you are inside the game proper then you're out of luck and locked out of your legally purchased game

[Wutz]

Well any game that forces me to be 100% online, and gives me the feeling although I have payed for the game, it does not belong to me, is a game that stays in the shops selves. I will not support that kind of treatment of legal customers. Sure there are fair reasons for protecting software, but it should not go so far to annoy paying customers so far that they rather not buy it, than put up with this kind of protection.

[LoBiSoMeM]

I will buy BoB even if I need to put a dead coala over my head to pass some kind of new DRM...

I'm not bothered at all with the DRM used, if it not uses some processing power or connection band when I'm flying...

I'm an olnline flyer, so, just for me, no problem at all even the need to go online to fly, and I'll buy this sim even if have the risk of DRM melt my rig... LOL

[Ltbear]

Anyone ask me if its worth getting SH5 i say no. Maby in 1-2 years when its modded up, but SH3 GWX stil is the best Atlantic sub sim....

I do like SH4 alot, but thats because i can sail the japanese subs......way way more fun than the German ones

Ltbear