UBI drops DRM (constant connection) for SH5.

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

Interesting...maybe UBI softens up their anti piracy policy for other present (and future) products as well?

I'd rather like a different publisher for SoW instead.

[Qpassa]

now ill buy it

[dduff442]

One big problem with SH is the sensor modelling. Without even having bought SH5 modders' work proves it's no better than in SH3 and SH4. Given that usually neither the destroyers nor the sub can see each other, sensors are crucial to the game.

SH sensors are absurd for the most part; radar warning receivers have a range limit for instance, which makes no sense. Parameters for signal sensitivity, antenna gain etc. would make sense and even if all the actual numbers were wrong modders would produce corrected versions quickly enough. SH sensors are so terrible that even modders' best efforts can't fix them though.

So... It's not that Ubi can't produce a good product, it's that they don't care if they produce a good product or not. They want games that look good and sell well. They simply don't care enough to correct absurdities that have dogged the series for more than a decade now.

dduff442

PS regarding DRM: this can be a tolerable nuisance provided players trust their ownership rights and privacy are not being abused. RoF's DRM has attracted relatively little criticism for instance. People don't trust Ubi not to switch off their products or otherwise drag them into prisoner status.

Ubi's antics are permissible for console games as the consoles themselves are sold under cost. PC owners who've paid through the nose will never accept serfdom at the hands of publishers.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by dduff442

One big problem with SH is the sensor modelling. Without even having bought SH5 modders' work proves it's no better than in SH3 and SH4. Given that usually neither the destroyers nor the sub can see each other, sensors are crucial to the game.

The intent was not really to discuss SH5, which is becoming a great sim with the community mods since late (IMO) but the DRM policies of UBI.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Qpassa

now ill buy it

LOL - Sow too?

[Xallo]

Too little too late. Might get it when it's as good as the community modded SH3

[Qpassa]

Originally Posted by swiss

LOL - Sow too?

Ill buy without drm not with it

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Qpassa

Ill buy without drm not with it

I was joking.
Seriously, I really don't think any member in here could resist buying SOW, with or without drm - It's a must have.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

I'd rather like a different publisher for SoW instead.

Amen to that.

Originally Posted by swiss

I was joking.
Seriously, I really don't think any member in here could resist buying SOW, with or without drm - It's a must have.

I disagree. There is only so much 'crap' that legit users can take. If SoW follows SH5's or RoF's path it will undoubtedly hurt their sales. I for one won't purchase if it ships with a DRM similar or worse than what SH5 has. I do understand that there has to be some kind of copy protection - what DCS team is doing with A-10C (improved Starforce with renewable activations over certain time period) would suite me just fine, Steam as well if it features an offline mode.

In other words - the only thing that would stop me from buying the game is another stupid DRM.

Again, I must point to the excellent article at SimHQ:

How to Torpedo Yourself Without Even Trying

[Blackdog_kt]

I didn't expect this to happen. I knew they decided to start shipping their games with Steam in place of Uplay after the initial uproar, but i didn't expect them to convert the titles originally released with Uplay (Assasin's Creed 2, SH5 and Settlers 7 i think they were), especially a niche product like SH5.

On the other hand, the SH series might not be a blockbuster but it sells steadily for a long time, so maybe that was a factor in their effort to increase sales.

Edit: After skimming through that thread on subsim it appears that they didn't drop it. You still need to authenticate online when you start the game, you just won't be kicked from the game if your connection drops mid-patrol. It's just like the RoF model, where they let you fly single missions and scripted campaigns but not dynamic ones unless you are connected.