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11-05-2010, 12:50 PM
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Real World BoB Hurricane Pilot's views on SOW
Flight Lieutenant John Greenwood flew Hurricanes in the Battle of Britain with RAF 253 Squadron. He shot down a Heinkel over Farnborough in August 1940. He is now 91.
Through a mutual friend, I managed to show him this ... ... and here's what he had to say. "As for the simulator I cannot pass comment for it was short and looked like a computer game which I used to play some years ago. I guess it is more like a game than a simulator. A hurricane would have been shot down long before it reached the Heinkels." Pretty blunt you might say but pretty revealing too. Interesting to hear that a real world Hurricane pilot used to play flight sims - I wonder which one?! Interesting too that he sees this as more of a game ... but then again probably not a fair reflection given the clip is short and he presumably doesn't know anything else about BoB SOW. Most interesting of all though is his assessment of the poor approach by the Hurricane. Oleg said somewhere that this was a rookie AI, so that would seem to fit. I guess the other Hurricane you can see in the video scoring a hit is not a rookie! Wouldn't it just be the icing on the cake if BoB SoW could be seen/enjoyed/commented on ... even endorsed by some the last remaining Few? I wonder if 1C/the publishers have thought of this possibility? Aside from the obvious commercial advantages of having this 'game' endorsed by real WWII pilots, how good would it feel for us to know that the Few think that SoW is very realistic too. A game and a memorial rolled into one. PPanPan 
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11-05-2010, 01:07 PM
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Nice comment ant thanks to Mr. John Greenwood for helping us to create a great historical simulator.
I think too that He111 was in easy AI mode. If you try this against veteran He111 on IL2, you are dead. Please, ask him about the turbulences behind the bombers! Last edited by SG1_Gunkan; 11-05-2010 at 01:11 PM.
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11-05-2010, 01:13 PM
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11-05-2010, 01:18 PM
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Endorsed? I hope people have more sense than to ask BoB veterans to make endorsements of commercial products. WW2 isn't some sort of franchise to be hawked around the globe...
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11-05-2010, 01:47 PM
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In a sense though, Oleg is creating a great historical masterwork - a detailed reconstruction of the war which brings out features that no book or artefact can. He is helping pass on and keep alive the memory and study of the war.
So, endorsement of the historical project and its value certainly isn't out of line. Especially contra certain large military companies attempting to charge fees from anyone attempting to depict the use of certain pieces of equipment that citizens died in while fighting during the war.
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11-05-2010, 01:55 PM
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Geoff Wellum was very happy for his book to be made into a TV Docu Drama and said it was probably the most realistic rendition of the Battle of Britain he'd seen. The same will hopefully be said about SoW. I just think it would be great if it could be said by one of the Few. And if they make some money out of it, I certainly wouldn't hold that against them. PPanPan
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11-05-2010, 03:05 PM
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11-05-2010, 03:21 PM
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11-05-2010, 04:04 PM
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In June this year I was in New Guinea, walking the Kokoda Track when our party met up with the author Bill James. He wrote a guide book for people walking the track that went over the various Battles. (Title "A field Guide to the KOKODA TRACK: an historical guide t the lost battlefields" ISBN 9780977570409) Several years ago he had flown out a number of the veterans of the Battle of Brigade Hill (including my father) to the battle site by helicopter. Bill James walked the men through the battle site according to the maps and official history accepted at the time. Some of the veterans including my dad told him that he was wrong and the action that they were involved in happened a hundred meters further up the hill. Unfortunately time, the weather and issues with the helicopter forced them to fly back to Port Moresby that day. On a later trip armed with metal detectors, Bill James and his team (including our groups guide) went over the battle field and from the location of ordinance and spent bullet cases determined that the evidence matched up with these men’s 65 year old memories closer than official histories that were written up a year or two after the battle! The day before we left for New Guinea, Dad drew up a mud map of the area of the battle that he was involved in. This map drawn from 68 year old memories matched almost exactly to the location we walked through. Many of the veteran’s memories of events are still quite lucid! Cheers! Last edited by Skoshi Tiger; 11-05-2010 at 04:08 PM.
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