Mig-3

SaQSoN · #1 11-04-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest123

I've seen this video and some photos of a restored MiG-3 at MAKS,does anyone know where it resides?

Novosibirsk.

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Originally Posted by Tempest123

Looks like a beautiful restoration but not much other information since 2007, it sure is a sleek looking plane IRL.

Currently it's Allison powered, but they are working on restoration of original AM-38.

Avimimus · #2 11-04-2010, 12:12 PM

Is there a chance that the 'restored' (higher detail model) Mig-3 from Sukhoi.ru will be included in future TD updates? Or that the modified cockpit with the new windscreen for the UB and ShVAK variants will appear? That is what I want to know...

Tempest123 · #3 11-04-2010, 02:09 PM

Thanks for the info, I found several magazine articles since then, I wonder how progress is going with the AM-38. Does the current day MiG company (or as I understand it, merged company now?) contribute any money to this I wonder. There are a few older planes in Il2 that need sprucing up (mig-3, R-10, il2 etc.) but I suspect TD has their hands full at the moment, so I guess I'd better start learning Gmax.

SaQSoN · #4 11-04-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest123

Thanks for the info, I found several magazine articles since then, I wonder how progress is going with the AM-38. Does the current day MiG company (or as I understand it, merged company now?) contribute any money to this I wonder.

I doubt about money, but there were talks, that MiG helped them with original reference material.

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Originally Posted by Tempest123

There are a few older planes in Il2 that need sprucing up (mig-3, R-10, il2 etc.) but I suspect TD has their hands full at the moment, so I guess I'd better start learning Gmax.

Gmax is no go. 3DS Max 5 or 9 is only way.

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AM-38? Not the AM-35?

Well, actually, both.

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What is behind that decision?

Both types are extremely rare, so that is what they have. They are trying to restore both engines which were recovered from wrecks. As far, as I heard, they even did AM-35 fire test, but it failed and suffered serious brakedown.

Here's the site of Aviarestavratzia which is restorer and current owner of the MiG.

http://www.rusavia.com/data/services/repair/

Check the movie on this page:

http://www.infox.ru/authority/defenc...e_samoly.phtml

The second half is about restoring the MiG-3

Tempest123 · #5 11-05-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SaQSoN

http://www.rusavia.com/data/services/repair/

Check the movie on this page:

http://www.infox.ru/authority/defenc...e_samoly.phtml

The second half is about restoring the MiG-3

Great movie, thanks for the info.

bf-110 · #6 11-04-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Avimimus

Is there a chance that the 'restored' (higher detail model) Mig-3 from Sukhoi.ru will be included in future TD updates? Or that the modified cockpit with the new windscreen for the UB and ShVAK variants will appear? That is what I want to know...

I saw you guys mentioning this site and the IL2 threads on it.
Is it the site from the legendary russian aircraft company Sukhoi?

SaQSoN · #7 11-05-2010, 04:44 AM

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I saw you guys mentioning this site and the IL2 threads on it.
Is it the site from the legendary russian aircraft company Sukhoi?

No. This is a fan site. It was started something like 11 or so years ago by a fan of "Su-27" game (the first one in ED series). However, the site is also dedicated to general aviation as well. One can say, it is the most popular Russian site about aircraft simulation games and related stuff. Something, like Russian SimHQ.

About new MiG-3 model and Sukhoi.ru: there is nothing like that on this site, more over, this site does not support IL-2 modding and discussion of mods is prohibited there.

Avimimus · #8 11-05-2010, 01:42 PM

Sorry, it was at Aviaskins (the working group is rebuilding the model from scratch and Vert has fixed the 2xUD and 2xShVAK canopies).

ElAurens · #9 11-05-2010, 03:41 PM

Did the real Mig 3 really have the non existant elevators like the in game version?

Honestly I cannot imagine building a fighter that has what amounts to no elevators.

Avimimus · #10 11-06-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens

Did the real Mig 3 really have the non existant elevators like the in game version?

Honestly I cannot imagine building a fighter that has what amounts to no elevators.

Well, it is a high speed design. The long engine means that you can already get some quite odd (and useful) behaviours at high angles of attack. In my own experience I've never felt that I needed more powerful elevators (compared to the Lavochkin's poor responsiveness in pitch, for instance).

Having control surfaces that don't separate from the plane at 720kph on the other hand... would be nice.