Ab 250 and 500 bombing

[SG1_Gunkan]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Not sure what an AJ-2 is (different name perhaps?) but I've killed T-34s and KV-1s doing this. AB500's have AP bomblets so if you do get a hit... it'll probably be a kill. I'll try and do a track sometime soon of the process. Hard to pull off like I said.

Please, show me a video with german AB bombs killing some hard ground unit, for example a single tank.


Thanks KG26_Alpha for the video. I hope that with the time all these kind of things get historically reworked.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan

Please, show me a video with german AB bombs killing some hard ground unit, for example a single tank.


Thanks KG26_Alpha for the video. I hope that with the time all these kind of things get historically reworked.

Here we go:
http://cid-d368795040548bdd.office.l...-tankbust.ntrk

My joystick was a little funny so I didn't get the run I wanted but I did manage to kill 3 T-34 tanks with one AB500 bomb. Note the late pull out and 1.5 second bomb delay to cluster the bombs in a tight area.

Like I said... my best was 8 tanks with a single bomb.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Here we go:
http://cid-d368795040548bdd.office.l...-tankbust.ntrk

My joystick was a little funny so I didn't get the run I wanted but I did manage to kill 3 T-34 tanks with one AB500 bomb. Note the late pull out and 1.5 second bomb delay to cluster the bombs in a tight area.

Like I said... my best was 8 tanks with a single bomb.

Did anyone have a look? Did what I posted help anyone?

[Flanker35M]

S!

Watched it. I did test similar approach, but the bomb seems very ineffective. The convoy I attacked lost 4 trucks, not a single tank and they were in the middle of the "cluster". I think the main gripe people have with the AB compared to the Russian counterpart PTAB is that it requires less hits to get more kills with PTAB than AB.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

Watched it. I did test similar approach, but the bomb seems very ineffective. The convoy I attacked lost 4 trucks, not a single tank and they were in the middle of the "cluster". I think the main gripe people have with the AB compared to the Russian counterpart PTAB is that it requires less hits to get more kills with PTAB than AB.

As far as I know it only takes a single hit for both PTAB and the AB bomblets... the "problem" is that the PTAB is more like the modern bomblet dispensers that they use on Tornadoes... they drop and spread beneath the aircraft whereas the AB is a more abstract system. You drop the bomb... then it explodes... then you hope the bomblets hit the target.

I blew the timing yesterday online and the bomblet exploded as it hit the ground next to the tank meaning the bomblets burried themselves in the ground and did nothing.

Still if you time it right you can take out large numbers of tanks. Once again... I've managed to take out 8 in one AB500 drop... It was hard and the tanks were clustered but it is possible. You need to use the same approach that I did. The only thing I can't speak to is the actual modeling of the bomb and if that is accurate. I have no idea... I just try and make it work.

[KG26_Alpha]

Can anyone confirm this info for IL2 1946.

AB-250 Has SD-2 anti personnel fragmentation bombs

AB-500 Has SD-4 antiarmour bomblets

AB-1000 Has incendiary bombs

Thanks

[swiss]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Can anyone confirm this info for IL2 1946.

AB-250 Has SD-2 anti personnel fragmentation bombs

AB-500 Has SD-4 antiarmour bomblets

AB-1000 Has incendiary bombs Thermite bomblets

Thanks

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[Viikate]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Can anyone confirm this info for IL2 1946.

AB-250 Has SD-2 anti personnel fragmentation bombs

AB-500 Has SD-4 antiarmour bomblets

AB-1000 Has incendiary bombs

Thanks

I cannot access the code right now, so I cannot verify this. AB 1000 most certainly has incendiary bomblets, which makes it very ineffective against everything else except houses. I recall that the incendiary rods were either B2EZ (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/b2ez.htm) or B2.2EZ (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/b22ez.htm)

AB 500 has SD 4 HL bomblets http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/sd4hl.htm

AB 250 has SD 2 butterflies http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/sd2.htm

4.10 introduces new AB 23 bombs (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/ab23sd2.html). Hs 129 carrying 2xAB 23 equals only 46 SD 2 butterflies, which is far less than AB 250 carries. It's very easy to wipe out whole vehicle column with 2xAB 23.

AB 23s were used in Africa lot agains soft targets to save expensive tungsten rounds. Against tanks these bombs are quite useless.

[rakinroll]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Still if you time it right you can take out large numbers of tanks. Once again... I've managed to take out 8 in one AB500 drop... It was hard and the tanks were clustered but it is possible. You need to use the same approach that I did. The only thing I can't speak to is the actual modeling of the bomb and if that is accurate. I have no idea... I just try and make it work.

Killing grounds with AB bombs should not be depending on "perfect timing and aiming ability". I think it would be easy same like in Russian alternative. Btw, thanks for the video.

[SG1_Gunkan]

Thank you very much Icefire, i will watch the video.le.