Ab 250 and 500 bombing

[dduff442]

...giving a burst alt of 411m, just about perfect.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Maybe resubmit the bug reports to Team Daidalos. They have fixed a few bugs here and there where it was possible in 4.09 so I'd expect similar in the future....

I hope adding the new content doesn't cause more bugs than we already have.

Debugging /correcting is less popular than adding new stuff for those actually doing it.

Possibly they don't have the tools or time to work out exactly how to correct these problems, unless they are really not bothered.

Its just strange when you compare the effect of different countries bombs the Germans have the worst for damage per Kg v Lbs when converted.

I have many maps for testing bombers and payloads effects from DM testing running flights over flak batteries and targets areas, thing have progressively got worse over the years with the addons/patches within the game core not just graphical bugs but AI routines and if anyone remembers the rubber bullets axis had with the 20mm this was a more easily spotted "bug" as it was a more commonly used weapon.

Old bugs need priority IMHO

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

I hope adding the new content doesn't cause more bugs than we already have.

Debugging /correcting is less popular than adding new stuff for those actually doing it.

Possibly they don't have the tools or time to work out exactly how to correct these problems, unless they are really not bothered.

Its just strange when you compare the effect of different countries bombs the Germans have the worst for damage per Kg v Lbs when converted.

I have many maps for testing bombers and payloads effects from DM testing running flights over flak batteries and targets areas, thing have progressively got worse over the years with the addons/patches within the game core not just graphical bugs but AI routines and if anyone remembers the rubber bullets axis had with the 20mm this was a more easily spotted "bug" as it was a more commonly used weapon.

Old bugs need priority IMHO

If anything I think a lack of time is the biggest issue... there is always more to do than there are people. Especially when time is volunteered. Nonetheless I would send your testing results and materials to them if you can... Oleg barely had time for the product in the later years but TD is taking it pretty seriously.

TBH I hadn't noticed a decrease in power. AB bombs have always been very hard to deploy but SC bombs have always gotten the job done for me. And I do a lot of bombing online. Not to say that some of the weapons have declined in effectiveness or have bugs now that they didn't before... just that it isn't that noticeable to me personally.

The difference between the buggered up MG151/20 and the fixed version was much more noticeable

[KG26_Alpha]

Just a quick revision on the AB bombing thing as I got my imperial and metric mixed up in an earlier post

Just redone some testing

Seems like the optimum effect using these bombs is strange and seems to have changed yet again.

Ju88A4 2 x AB1000 Stuvi set to 500kph 3000m bomb delay 3 seconds

This give maximum spread and damage still very poor results.

Ju88A4 4x AB500 Stuvi set to 500kph 3000m bomb delay 3 seconds

This give maximum spread and damage still very poor results.

Still testing though, you might want to try your selves and see if there's a better setup for the AB bombs

[IceFire]

The best AB bombing technique I know of is using something fast like a FW190. Sight the target, initiate your run... drop to 50 meters and about 4 seconds before the target do a shallow pull out and drop the bomb (using 2 second delay). The bomb will initially fly just above the target and disperse the bomblets in a very tight formation at the front of the target area. I've killed as many as 8 tightly grouped tanks doing this.

The timing is VERY hard and to this day I can only pull it off every so often.

Also skip bombing the AB1000 along the ground can produce some devastating results... or it can be a total dud too.

[KG26_Alpha]

would be interesting to see a track of that.

[SG1_Gunkan]

Originally Posted by IceFire

The best AB bombing technique I know of is using something fast like a FW190. Sight the target, initiate your run... drop to 50 meters and about 4 seconds before the target do a shallow pull out and drop the bomb (using 2 second delay). The bomb will initially fly just above the target and disperse the bomblets in a very tight formation at the front of the target area. I've killed as many as 8 tightly grouped tanks doing this.

The timing is VERY hard and to this day I can only pull it off every so often.

Also skip bombing the AB1000 along the ground can produce some devastating results... or it can be a total dud too.

Can destroy tanks like russian AJ-2? do you use it against hard or soft targets?

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan

Can destroy tanks like russian AJ-2? do you use it against hard or soft targets?

Not sure what an AJ-2 is (different name perhaps?) but I've killed T-34s and KV-1s doing this. AB500's have AP bomblets so if you do get a hit... it'll probably be a kill.

I'll try and do a track sometime soon of the process. Hard to pull off like I said.

[KG26_Alpha]

Apologies for clip quality.

4xAB500

Only 2 soft targets killed out of 50 trucks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQEHzZoKyhg

[SG1_Gunkan]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Not sure what an AJ-2 is (different name perhaps?) but I've killed T-34s and KV-1s doing this. AB500's have AP bomblets so if you do get a hit... it'll probably be a kill. I'll try and do a track sometime soon of the process. Hard to pull off like I said.

Please, show me a video with german AB bombs killing some hard ground unit, for example a single tank.


Thanks KG26_Alpha for the video. I hope that with the time all these kind of things get historically reworked.