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Old 06-06-2010, 09:27 AM
engarde engarde is offline
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I am playing Pacific fighters at the moment. I am waiting for 1946 to come in the mail.

whats the best fighter plane?

I have been using the F4F-3 1941

I have just been getting the hang of flying and rolls with it and turning , take offs, landings, aiming and shooting.
I am starting to learn how to prevent myself from going into stalls and still be able to maneuver fast and take the plane to its limits without going over them and ending up swimming in the ocean.

But I was just wondering if there are better planes to use for what I am doing.

figured it would be faster to ask then to go through the whole list one mission at a time.
I suppose you have to ask yourself how do you like to fight.

Do you turn endlessly despite the aircrafts capabilities?

Do you never engage without significant height advantage, and fire only whilst diving, never turning?

Do you prefer sneak attacks or try to get head on shots hoping for the engine kill?

Is your gunnery to the point where you can line up cockpit shots without thinking, or do you prefer machine guns with their bigger ammo load supporting those low percentage long range shots?

Decide these things:

Where do I usually attack from?

Can I hit my target reliably?

Whats my country preference?

Do i like cannons or machine guns?

Do i fly looking rearward or prefer power to make sure things get smaller behind me rather than larger?

Once you've covered those general points, then you'll have a selection of aircraft that will do you well.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:13 AM
KnightFandragon KnightFandragon is offline
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srsly...double post...now how did i do that?......

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Old 06-07-2010, 07:16 AM
KnightFandragon KnightFandragon is offline
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I suppose you have to ask yourself how do you like to fight.

Do you turn endlessly despite the aircrafts capabilities?

Do you never engage without significant height advantage, and fire only whilst diving, never turning?

Do you prefer sneak attacks or try to get head on shots hoping for the engine kill?

Is your gunnery to the point where you can line up cockpit shots without thinking, or do you prefer machine guns with their bigger ammo load supporting those low percentage long range shots?

Decide these things:

Where do I usually attack from?

Can I hit my target reliably?

Whats my country preference?

Do i like cannons or machine guns?

Do i fly looking rearward or prefer power to make sure things get smaller behind me rather than larger?

Once you've covered those general points, then you'll have a selection of aircraft that will do you well.
Lolz, the questions are there, I gotta awnser them haha.

Do I turn endlessly? yes....I turn all the time....even when I dont need to really...true story

I attack when I see an enemy....thought I do almost always attack from above....altitude is always a good advantage to have

I try to dive in from above and get on the 6 o clock, drill em and move on.

My gunnery is kinda shotty, mostly b/c the joystick ive got always goes down to the left....even after calibrating it. I prefer close range 0.27-0.10 range shots w/ cannons or 50 cals...thsoe give me the best results haha

I go for 6 o clock

i hit quite a bit, my gunnery is aight I guess

nation? idc what one it is just as long as the plane fits my box haha

20mm cannons, they have good ammo load and give pretty quick result if they hit. 50cals b/c they are easy to hit with and produce pretty effective results only after a litle bit of plinking away at the enemy.

30cals.....worst...guns...EVAR!!!
30-57mm cannons I dont care a whole lot for b/c they dont carry any ammo, kick like a mule resulting in you cant hit the broadside of a Battleship....Surely they are simply devastating and ive put that to good use a time or two but I usually miss b/c the big cannons also fire so slow and the planes fly so fast that they simply miss..one round goes in front of the plane the other right behind its tail and the plane is missed entirely.

At the end of the day the plane I have found I do the best in are the Spitfire.....its I guess a "noob plane" but I think its simply the bomb. It has decent speed, turns on a dime....the only thing I dont like about it is its armarment. Surely it has cannons but it has 4 30cal MGs that arent worth spit in a bucket.
I have also wrecked me many a bot in the P40 M42, that planes is actually quite nice, turns well has good armarment but doesnt climb worth a hoot and its overall kinda slow...
the newest addition is the F4U 1C or 1D on 25 or 50% fuel loads. The 1c is like simply beautiful, its got the firepower I always dreamt of, 4 20mms and a boat load of ammo and with the lower fuel load its only slightly worse in turning and such as the P40. Its pretty bloody fast and it handles extremely well at low speeds 190-220KPH and its a breeze to land. One thing I hate about it is that black cap that is over the top of the cockpit right where you would be looking to check your six....cant see a hot-diggety-dog gone thing one my six in that plane... however, All in all I quite like it...the Only Navy planes ive grown to like at all.

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Old 06-09-2010, 10:49 AM
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I'm amazed about the fact that noone mentioned Yak-3 and J2M, the best two dogfighters in the sim in my humble opinion.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:48 AM
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Mi favourite dogfighters in game are the FW190D9 and FW190A8. Ta152C was better than these previous planes in reality, but not in the sim, is completelly underpowered.

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I'm amazed about the fact that noone mentioned Yak-3 and J2M, the best two dogfighters in the sim in my humble opinion.
Just fight over 6K and this two beauties are doomed.

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Old 06-09-2010, 12:06 PM
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Gunkan, the J2M5 is as fast as P47 and p51 at alts above 6000m(or so).

Compared to late war American and German fighters, the Jak-3 is too slow and too limited to low and medium alts, starts to lose engine power quickly after 4000m. J2M to high alts only... Personally I find the VK107 powered Jak-9U much better, ahead of La-7, but still behind P51, P47 and late FW190s.

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Old 06-09-2010, 01:56 PM
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Mi favourite dogfighters in game are the FW190D9 and FW190A8. Ta152C was better than these previous planes in reality, but not in the sim, is completelly underpowered.
Just fight over 6K and this two beauties are doomed.
I would like to see you in an A8 making defensive maneuvers mate.
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Old 06-09-2010, 08:23 PM
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I would like to see you in an A8 making defensive maneuvers mate.
Agreed.

A Fw190 of any type caught in a defensive position by a fighter like a Spitfire IX will almost certainly be destroyed, barring having a lot of altitude to dive away or interference from friendly aircraft.

Not that the Fw190 can't be a very effective fighter, but it bleeds energy very rapidly when forced into defensive manoeuvres, and lacks the energy building potential and low-medium speed manoeuvrability that some of the other top range fighters like the Spitfire IX 25lbs, LA7 or Bf109K4 have.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:13 PM
JG27CaptStubing JG27CaptStubing is offline
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Agreed.

A Fw190 of any type caught in a defensive position by a fighter like a Spitfire IX will almost certainly be destroyed, barring having a lot of altitude to dive away or interference from friendly aircraft.

Not that the Fw190 can't be a very effective fighter, but it bleeds energy very rapidly when forced into defensive manoeuvres, and lacks the energy building potential and low-medium speed manoeuvrability that some of the other top range fighters like the Spitfire IX 25lbs, LA7 or Bf109K4 have.
I would add that it does depend on the position and some other variables... D9s for instance are good accellerators and have the potential to to extend while the Antons at least the later ones are a bit lacking.

Early War Antons are more like the Dora series. They have enough accelleration to get away from Spits.

The last set of planes you posted are what I consider abnormally good planes. Spit 25 and LA7s are a bit on the silly side in terms of performance and render any Anton obsolete. A Dora might have a chance. The regular K4 is a good plane but not on part with the former. I would say the K4 C3 can put up a much better fight though I still say it goes to the Spit 25 and the LA7.
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:27 PM
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A Fw190 of any type caught in a defensive position by a fighter like a Spitfire IX will almost certainly be destroyed, barring having a lot of altitude to dive away or interference from friendly aircraft.

Not that the Fw190 can't be a very effective fighter, but it bleeds energy very rapidly when forced into defensive manoeuvres, and lacks the energy building potential and low-medium speed manoeuvrability that some of the other top range fighters like the Spitfire IX 25lbs, LA7 or Bf109K4 have.
For me, you are totally wrong mate. FW-190A-8 can be a good fighter at low level in the hand of a good pilot. The key lies in the rolling skill of pilot.
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