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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

View Poll Results: How would You like Teams to be Organized?
VAS Squadron vs Everyone Else 12 36.36%
VAS & Penor Flight vs Everyone Else 2 6.06%
Fresh, Random Teams (both equal in player skills, and numbers) 19 57.58%
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:36 PM
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I asked earlier, but I think my question got a bit lost in the shuffle: are *all* the planes in each region/country going to be available after they're 'conquered?' The reason I'm asking is I'm pretty hyped about the German jet fighters now, so if/when we capture Germany I can fly one.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:45 PM
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I asked earlier, but I think my question got a bit lost in the shuffle: are *all* the planes in each region/country going to be available after they're 'conquered?' The reason I'm asking is I'm pretty hyped about the German jet fighters now, so if/when we capture Germany I can fly one.
Check the first page of this thread (I am using the first 3 posts as Bulletin Boards), post #2 has information about what planes are allowed and what territory they belong to.

* Regarding Jets, I originally did not intend to allow players to use them because I did not want them to be used as tactical Kamikaze against bombers, maybe I will add them with certain conditions or as privilege to officers, dont know yet, I have to think about it.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:39 PM
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Check the first page of this thread (I am using the first 3 posts as Bulletin Boards), post #2 has information about what planes are allowed and what territory they belong to.

* Regarding Jets, I originally did not intend to allow players to use them because I did not want them to be used as tactical Kamikaze against bombers, maybe I will add them with certain conditions or as privilege to officers, dont know yet, I have to think about it.
Yes, I did that... that's why I asked the question --- I wanted clarification on the omission of the jet fighters.

By 'tactical Kamikaze,' I'm assuming you're saying that the team who is flying the jet fighters would have some sort of overwhelming advantage over bombers... I'm not sure if that's your meaning, or if that would even be the case. Jet fighters certainly have speed, but bomber escorts could certainly develop tactics to combat them I would think... plus, if the jet fighters do have an advantage, this only offsets the advantage that the B-17 brings to the table... although I guess this may be moot if both sides can use the B-17 equally from the start of the game.

I do hope you come up with a way to include the jet fighters in your campaign; with all the T&B, dogfighting in BOP is soooo one-dimensional, and IMHO the option to include more B&Z plane choices is a sorely needed aspect to this simulator, which accurately reflect the real-life awareness and adjustment to the tactics of energy fighting & situational awareness (something somehwhat missing in the endless descending spiral dogfights that dominate BOP).
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Old 12-19-2009, 12:46 AM
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what I meant by "tactical kamikaze" was that I dont want players to use jets as suicide fighters to ram into the bombers.

Most likely I will add Jets but they will be used by privileged Officers only and with severe consequences for intentional ramming. Also, Jets will only be available to the team that controls the German Territory.
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Old 12-19-2009, 12:52 AM
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Awesome! I agree - ramming bombers should be prohibited from any plane... to be honest I wouldn't expect anyone participating in your tourney to stoop to such cheap tactics.

This is gonna be fun!
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:44 AM
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what I meant by "tactical kamikaze" was that I dont want players to use jets as suicide fighters to ram into the bombers.

Most likely I will add Jets but they will be used by privileged Officers only and with severe consequences for intentional ramming. Also, Jets will only be available to the team that controls the German Territory.
no only bf109s should be used as kamikazze's LIVE ON THE SONDERKOMMANDOELBE seriously though kamakazze's are annoying and ruin the fun
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Old 12-20-2009, 03:56 PM
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what I meant by "tactical kamikaze" was that I dont want players to use jets as suicide fighters to ram into the bombers.

Most likely I will add Jets but they will be used by privileged Officers only and with severe consequences for intentional ramming. Also, Jets will only be available to the team that controls the German Territory.
why not my bloody,nice,terrible little bullshit of i 153?LOL!!!!
if jets are allowed...
u are the judge .i will respect your opinion
no probs if it is no
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:00 PM
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Maybe *all* planes should be allowed... on sim they all have advantages and disadvantages, correct? Unless there's something I don't know about one plane being cheap or something...
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:14 PM
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Maybe *all* planes should be allowed... on sim they all have advantages and disadvantages, correct? Unless there's something I don't know about one plane being cheap or something...
yes agree with u
but i will be ok with or without my 153,i don't want to be laborious , if my 153 is not allowed and if the jet are allowed it is ok for me ,no probs,i don' t want deprive the jets pilots of their favorite plane,i respect all the players and all the planes
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