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Old 12-18-2009, 02:42 PM
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A really nice update.
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:53 PM
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Luthier,

I'm really happy with this update, it is one of the best so far. I started to feel the immersion, with all these objects in the airfield (flak !) and the iperrealistic Stuka cockpit.

As far as graphical sophistication, I realise that we must accept some compromises, in order to leave computing power for the complex simulation calculations, but still the graphics looks excellent.

I don't like the "Crysis" style grass, not too for the color but rather for the style, it doesn't resemble any English or French grass to my knowledge.

All in all : great ! Keep up the good work !

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Old 12-18-2009, 03:07 PM
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DELETED because the bad choose of words, gave wrong understanding of post.

Last edited by ECV56_Lancelot; 12-18-2009 at 07:01 PM. Reason: Didn´t mean to offend Insuber.
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:33 PM
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LOL! This is killing me, because i beleive you write it seriously. But you read this and its like saying "The grass in this FLIGHT simulator its wrong, its not french or english grass style". The only thing it lacks is saying something like "...grass style, please make it right because it sucks and completely kills the immersion"
I beleive its not you intention to troll or anything like it, but the subject its almost hilarious if you see it from an outsider point of view.

I hope u don´t get offended, its not my intention.
I hope you don't get offended but you are hilarious. Insuber is completely right, unless the gardener/farmer has been slacking, I have never really seen grass be let to go that out of hand in Blighty. Of course if it was a crop field then that is different, but I like to believe that here in England we take pride in making sure our Gardens are well kept; particularly our arfields
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:57 PM
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I hope you don't get offended but you are hilarious. Insuber is completely right, unless the gardener/farmer has been slacking, I have never really seen grass be let to go that out of hand in Blighty. Of course if it was a crop field then that is different, but I like to believe that here in England we take pride in making sure our Gardens are well kept; particularly our arfields
I´m not offended. And even if he is right, i dont know, its just that its funny that we discuss about GRASS, specially in a flight simulator. Never seen a discussion about grass style in any flight simulator before.
Tell to somebody that its not in flight simulator, but play games, about that there was a discussion about grass style in a WiP simulator, and see its reaction. Let me know if he/she doesn´t laugh!
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:32 PM
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I´m not offended. And even if he is right, i dont know, its just that its funny that we discuss about GRASS, specially in a flight simulator. Never seen a discussion about grass style in any flight simulator before.
Tell to somebody that its not in flight simulator, but play games, about that there was a discussion about grass style in a WiP simulator, and see its reaction. Let me know if he/she doesn´t laugh!
I do not find this hilarious: in case you did not notice ground (hence grass) does play an important part in a flight simulator...at the beginning and at the end of each and every flight, no less!

Grass is integral part of the ground quality and too high grass ot too wet grass has meant sometimes death instead of life for unsuspecting or too confident pilots (for the record -and for once!- I know very well what I am talking about...I just did not die this time!).
Besides, grass is also a good way of interpreting wind direction...and finally grass is crucial in giving immersion feeling: when grass is present, heavy vehicles...and aircraft... let tell-tale traces in grass which are very visible and very much looked-for from the air...

I would conclude thay having such a discussion mainly demonstrates how far away the computing state of the art has gone and continues to go toward giving the feeling of reality and of instant immersion into flight simulators!

JV
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Old 12-18-2009, 05:36 PM
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I do not find this hilarious: in case you did not notice ground (hence grass) does play an important part in a flight simulator...at the beginning and at the end of each and every flight, no less!

Grass is integral part of the ground quality and too high grass ot too wet grass has meant sometimes death instead of life for unsuspecting or too confident pilots (for the record -and for once!- I know very well what I am talking about...I just did not die this time!).
Besides, grass is also a good way of interpreting wind direction...and finally grass is crucial in giving immersion feeling: when grass is present, heavy vehicles...and aircraft... let tell-tale traces in grass which are very visible and very much looked-for from the air...

I would conclude thay having such a discussion mainly demonstrates how far away the computing state of the art has gone and continues to go toward giving the feeling of reality and of instant immersion into flight simulators!

JV
Does all this include french or british grass style?

Anyway, i agree that its important to give immersion feeling and also very important if the phisics interaction of the grass with objects is modeled somehow.

Later on i will delete my original post because i beleive i made a bad job choosing the word for expressing what i wanted to write, and i sence that its starting to give a point of discussion diferent that the thread is meant to have. And also diferent is given a diferent perception that my original intention.
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Old 12-18-2009, 05:35 PM
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I´m not offended. And even if he is right, i dont know, its just that its funny that we discuss about GRASS, specially in a flight simulator. Never seen a discussion about grass style in any flight simulator before.
Tell to somebody that its not in flight simulator, but play games, about that there was a discussion about grass style in a WiP simulator, and see its reaction. Let me know if he/she doesn´t laugh!
Ahh, now I see what you mean no, we're just a picky bunch Most of us are perfectionists
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:38 PM
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Say Ilya,

I've not seen anything posted else where, will BoB have a proper Stratus cloud layer?

i.e. A uniformed base, a top you can climb/fly over?

Great shots

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Old 12-18-2009, 03:44 PM
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Say Ilya,

I've not seen anything posted else where, will BoB have a proper Stratus cloud layer?

i.e. A uniformed base, a top you can climb/fly over?
This is a question best answered with a screenshot.

This is a question best answered some other time.
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