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[Bearcat]

They didn't coin the phrase Luftwhiners for nothing..

[Flanker35M]

S!

Placebo effect working to the maximum. Except the increased stability the Pony has not changed a bit regarding performance charts. Checked with InfoMod. TD could write vaguely of a FM change in the ReadMe, even nothing would be made and "aah ooh praise them" would ensue

Happy new year.

[rakinroll]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

They didn't coin the phrase Luftwhiners for nothing..

Man, i am trying to be polite but your comment frocing me to be rude. These kind of stupid answers violating this forum, at least this thread. Who do you think you are? Shut your big mouth up if you have nothing to write about thread!

Sory guys but i am really bored of these kind of kids!

Regards...

[LukeFF]

Someone hand rakinroll a tissue.

[rakinroll]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Someone hand rakinroll a tissue.

Thanks Luke, i see that school days comments are very popular for members like you.

One more time i understand that it is impossible to discuss validly here.

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

First, the P-51 wasn't know for some "high speed spin characteristics" in real life, sorry. It's always some point people trying to impinge to this aircraft in basis of IL-2 model. The P-51 was know as one of the better WWII aircrafts, stable, reliable. And the loss of control in high speed maneuvers still there, but in HIGH SPEEDS AND AGREESIVE MANEUVERS, as any other aircraft, and in P-51 - because os laminar airflow wing, or other model factor - is more intense than other aircraft in IL-2.

What we don't have more are medium-low speed crazy stalls/spins.

Regards turn fighting in P-51, I got two 109s in the initial turn. The P-51 now is stable an as in real life can turn great initialy, but in IL-2 and real life can't sustain energy in slow turning against an 109. So, the P-51 isn't a Spitfire, but it CAN TURN FIGHT A DORA OR ANTON, for example, without enter in a crazy spin.

It always could.

Before this patch P51 was still the better Allied plane (my favourite one): I love escort mission or free hunt over Germany in it. If you're smart you are untouchable.

The spin was there but you could avoid it with a pair of hours of tight dogfight to understand the plane's limits. That spin at high speed was a little annoying when you thought that you have a good firing solution if you pull the stick a little bit more... anyway you could wait for the next attack since in a P51 it's not a "now or never": you ARE faster with a really good BnZ trait.

If it was wrong I'm happy they fixed it.

But still P51 is one of many allied airplanes when instead Germany can count only in two main airplane types (three if we see the Dora as a complete different 190). One kind of these, the Anton one, is still not accurate with its awful energy retention. I don't understand why it's not been fixed in these years...

[robtek]

I might not share rakinroll's opinion of blue aircraft, but shure i share his opinion to those comments!

[ImpalerNL]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

It always could.

Before this patch P51 was still the better Allied plane (my favourite one): I love escort mission or free hunt over Germany in it. If you're smart you are untouchable.

The spin was there but you could avoid it with a pair of hours of tight dogfight to understand the plane's limits. That spin at high speed was a little annoying when you thought that you have a good firing solution if you pull the stick a little bit more... anyway you could wait for the next attack since in a P51 it's not a "now or never": you ARE faster with a really good BnZ trait.

If it was wrong I'm happy they fixed it.

But still P51 is one of many allied airplanes when instead Germany can count only in two main airplane types (three if we see the Dora as a complete different 190). One kind of these, the Anton one, is still not accurate with its awful energy retention. I don't understand why it's not been fixed in these years...

The purpose of blue airplanes are to enhance the reds gameplay.


It would be nice to see some fw190/bf109 FM changes.

[Ernst]

Why my picture was removed? Is the picture too big? Ok, i will provide the link:

P-51 FLYING ENVELOPE

[Sven]

Originally Posted by Ernst

Why my picture was removed?

you mean the flying evelop of the P51? The site where you got it from does not allow that to be displayed other then their own site.