New IL2 Sturmovik Title!!!

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Originally Posted by CWMV

You get what you pay for. Quality costs.

IL2 mods is a unique situation where people do the mods/updates for free. Definetly not the norm.

Because they "officially" cannot take money for the work, AFAIK.

Originally Posted by Plane-Eater

Now, hang on.

FlightSim (the original incarnation) was still a profitable product. It was bureaucratic idiocy and a stagnated, outdated developer-centric culture in the studio itself that led to its demise. Lots of people got cozy in their seats and stayed in their comfort zone doing the same thing for too long - sometimes for 10 years plus. The difference tech-wise and methodology-wise between 1999 and 2009 was massive. A good housecleaning instead of a shutdown would have fixed a lot. FS11 was looking awesome.

Flight Live, on the other hand, was deliberately and quite literally scuttled. Why, I can't say for sure. But at work here, I sit next to some folks who were part of that team (and who I worked with on FlightSim), and they described the final months of Flight Live. A new manager was forced on the studio by much higher-up MS management, and entirely scrapped years of planning and licensing partnerships and development - basically the heart of the product. The next area was going to be the Grand Canyon, and Gibbage had a Grumman Goose ready to rock that was ditched for cockpitless warbirds.

Then the new manager dragged the product kicking and screaming in a direction that was known ahead of time to be disastrous - nobody is going to buy arcade-incarnation cockpitless fighter planes for a civil sim with nothing to shoot at. The goal was to make it fail. Somebody wanted that program dead, but they wanted it to publicly crash and burn before they axed it.

I suspect somebody several floors up just flat-out hated the Flight Sim product and had a grudge. The situation has all the hallmarks of a corporate power struggle where there's been a change in the balance of power.


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As far as flight sims go MS constantly produced bugged software that needed Abacus products to re-model and re-work the aircraft & performance in the early days,
patches were rare if not non existent.

Then they released products that had minimal visual changes worse if any (FSX 10)
they were selling compete products where for the amount of work actually done it should have been a patch/addon not a £50.00 software release, thats what killed it off
people were fed up getting torn a new one every time a new FSX tiltle was put on the shelf, same thing happened with CFS3 rinse repeat recycle................

I actually heard CFS pilots on a TS server saying they would never buy IL2 Shturmovik because it was Russian/communist software and inferior programming to MS CFS/FSX

Ermmm yeah right.
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