how are these 109s turns 180 with out penalties?

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Originally Posted by recoilfx

Attila, I hope you are being sarcastic.

If the performance of 109 did worsen, then I have no idea how lot of us are still out climbing the brits

Were you flying the e3 or the e4? They have worse (e4 has the worst) climb rate, but they are still better than the brits (minus the Spit IIas). If they are on your six already, you won't be able to just climb away unless they are bad shots.

Also, remember that players' skill improve, the same people who shot you down 6 months ago must have improved their gunnery and flying skills.

Exactly! Last night on ATAG when I flew my Hurricane (no rotol!) I got really humiliated by a 109 pilot. He was yo-yoing up and down whilst I was on the deck desperately trying to meet him head-on at every pass he made. I had the biggest of luck though, I hit him in the first pass and he got a fuel leak which he didn't notice so after quite a few minutes of desperate evasive maneuvers he finally ran out of juice and took a dip in to the cold channel.

As I said before, if it's a good pilot the 109 is absolutely deadly.