IL2 and Sound Modding

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

While I am disappointed/confused over what is happening with 4.09mb I do firmly beleive that AAA will not cross the FM/DM/Weapons line.

I just read, again, at that other site that someone modded specific aircraft WM to use safat rounds. Rone or Josse ring a bell? That isn't the only WM mod either.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by BSS_Sniper

I just read, again, at that other site that someone modded specific aircraft WM to use safat rounds. Rone or Josse ring a bell? That isn't the only WM mod either.

Yes, josse does have a mod like that, and yes it has been mentioned on the AAA site, but it is a banned mod on AAA, it is against the AAA rules and will never be posted there. It was simply discussed.

And don't you dare compare the use of mods to being a crackhead. Yes I'm getting defensive, you would be too if it was you being accused of vile actions that you did not commit. All I do is fly B-17s and B-29s and such and me and everyone like me is being accused of all sorts of crap. I've said here and on other forums a bunch of times that I would put this back in the bottle if I could, but I cannot, so no one is going to "impose their will" on me and keep me from having fun while not hurting anyone. I have done NOTHING WRONG! If you guys want a level playing feild stop accusing and belittling others and come up with a solution your damn selves. I've tried and treid to come up with some sort of way to find a peaceful middle ground but I've finally realized that that will never happen as long as an insane few keep insisting we are doing wrong by minding our own damn buisness on our own damn pc's.

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

Yes, josse does have a mod like that, and yes it has been mentioned on the AAA site, but it is a banned mod on AAA, it is against the AAA rules and will never be posted there. It was simply discussed.

And don't you dare compare the use of mods to being a crackhead. Yes I'm getting defensive, you would be too if it was you being accused of vile actions that you did not commit. All I do is fly B-17s and B-29s and such and me and everyone like me is being accused of all sorts of crap. I've said here and on other forums a bunch of times that I would put this back in the bottle if I could, but I cannot, so no one is going to "impose their will" on me and keep me from having fun while not hurting anyone. I have done NOTHING WRONG! If you guys want a level playing feild stop accusing and belittling others and come up with a solution your damn selves. I've tried and treid to come up with some sort of way to find a peaceful middle ground but I've finally realized that that will never happen as long as an insane few keep insisting we are doing wrong by minding our own damn business on our own damn pc's.

I wasn't calling you a crackhead. It was just an extreme way to get a point across. Also I know that most people over there aren't cheating or even inclined to do so. There are, however, discrepancies. Those mod's you said aren't over there, are over there and/or the site is openly giving the info on where to go get them. That is no different than just having it available there to DL.

The only thing I have a problem with now is that they already made 4.09 open to modding. If they cared anything about the community as a whole they would've just left it alone. I know what some will say, "oh, but someone would've anyway". Well, people will rob banks too and commit suicide.......

The one chance they had to regain any credibility they just blew right of the water by going right into 4.09, beta or not. It really shows the mentality.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BSS_Sniper

I just read, again, at that other site that someone modded specific aircraft WM to use safat rounds. Rone or Josse ring a bell? That isn't the only WM mod either.

Those are the same guys that I quoted before here and mentioned in my thread above...

[NeuralDream]

The only way for BoB:SoW to be safe from crackers and hackers is to be a complete failure. Otherwise it will be a juicy target.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by NeuralDream

The only way for BoB:SoW to be safe from crackers and hackers is to be a complete failure. Otherwise it will be a juicy target.

Like this one has been all these years....

[LEXX]

There is another way.

The online Pay-To-Play sims seem to have a handle on cheaters. But then they have to since they charge a monthly fee while Oleg has always needed to depend on Offline play customers to finance "freebie" cheat-free Online play.

But there is an even better way for most all the existing customers if the sim were to be split into "moddable" and "un-moddable" versions. This is what Oleg seems to be planning for BoB And Beyond.

[NeuralDream]

Originally Posted by LEXX

There is another way.

The online Pay-To-Play sims seem to have a handle on cheaters. But then they have to since they charge a monthly fee while Oleg has always needed to depend on Offline play customers to finance "freebie" cheat-free Online play.

I'd LOVE BoB:SoW to be Pay-to-Play. I played 2 years wwiionline. What a BLAST!! The online battles are breathtaking (often more than 500 players on the ground, 30 in the sea and 80 flying) and the devs release a new patch every month, and every Friday night info on the next updates along with request from users. And imagine that they have only 6 devs.

OH PLZ, PRETTY PLZ OLEG, make this game Pay-to-Play. The majority of your fans are adults with good jobs. Don't stick to the dinosaur paradigm of getting only $50 once and then having to satisfy our requests for life , and we having to wait for ages to get a new plane! . Plz make it pay-to-play.

[LEXX]

About two years back, Oleg poasted at sukhoi.ru that he would personally like to take his future sims purely Online Pay-To-Play. About one year ago Oleg poasted at the ubizoo that, For BoB And Beyond, he will offer, if it works out...

(1) "moddable" sim for Offline play and "open mod" Online servers.

(2) "un-moddable" sim for "closed" or no-mod Online servers.

However, about a month or two back, Oleg poasted here that it is "undecided" about freebie Online play and dedicated server. I'm not sure what this means.


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BillFish (page...yikes...85) ::

Well none of what I've said directed at individuals....however,

Be careful here not to damage the entire online play community. Vaguely targeted accusations with the intent to harass Oleg's customers was a common, and tolerated, webboard behavior seen at the publisher's forum as far back as 15 April 2003 when some hostile anonymous public server players accused Oleg's Offline play and private server/LAN play customers of "wanting to slider trim cheat online" for asking about working trim controls in their WW2 flight models.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by NeuralDream

I'd LOVE BoB:SoW to be Pay-to-Play. I played 2 years wwiionline. What a BLAST!! The online battles are breathtaking (often more than 500 players on the ground, 30 in the sea and 80 flying) and the devs release a new patch every month, and every Friday night info on the next updates along with request from users. And imagine that they have only 6 devs.

OH PLZ, PRETTY PLZ OLEG, make this game Pay-to-Play. The majority of your fans are adults with good jobs. Don't stick to the dinosaur paradigm of getting only $50 once and then having to satisfy our requests for life , and we having to wait for ages to get a new plane! . Plz make it pay-to-play.

I don't play online. Don't want to either. If Oleg's going to go pay to play, then it should be online subscription service to play online...... NOT buy it AND then have to pay to play, like with City of Heros.

I'll pay 2 times as much (maybe 3x if I like the demo version enough) for the game because I think the initial investment is worth it, but I sure as hell won't buy it if my only option is online.